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1 posted on 06/22/2023 8:20:21 AM PDT by chuckee
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they ARE A DEFACTO MEMBER NOW!.................


2 posted on 06/22/2023 8:22:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Let the nukes begin.

Morons.


3 posted on 06/22/2023 8:22:08 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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Keep poking that bear.


4 posted on 06/22/2023 8:22:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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I support the Ukraine jointing NATO as long as America leaves. Europe can deal with their own problems.


5 posted on 06/22/2023 8:23:38 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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It often seems to be the case that those trying to prevent a past war cause the next war.


6 posted on 06/22/2023 8:24:36 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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“Cleverly said the UK was “very, very supportive” of Ukraine being able to join Nato without the usual need for it to meet the conditions set out in a Nato membership action plan (Map).”

Hilarious. Despite Russian troll claims, Ukraine was actually rejected in previous bids to join NATO, even when they wanted to jump through all the usual hoops.

Now, thanks to Putin, Ukraine will get an easy admission with no hoop jumping necessary. They should give Putin the “NATO Salesman of the Year” award.


7 posted on 06/22/2023 8:25:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Just as Ukkraine is in a war with Russia, we’ll have them sign with NATO.

What can go wrong?


8 posted on 06/22/2023 8:26:13 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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How about “No”.
There are reasons Uke is not already a nato member.
They want us fully involved in a world war that will kill millions of us in a misguided notion (or outright lie) of “saving the planet”. Much grief and agony could be avoided simply by quickly and quietly dispatching the comparatively few people actually behind this.


9 posted on 06/22/2023 8:26:13 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Apparently the US Senate would have to agree to allow Ukraine to join NATO:

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN11949


10 posted on 06/22/2023 8:27:00 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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Not all.

The US is, amazingly, opposed.


11 posted on 06/22/2023 8:27:51 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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without the usual need for it to meet the conditions set out in a Nato membership action plan

There are no rules any more.

The West seems very focused on destabilizing Russia. I get it: Putin is a bad guy. But this is going to end up like overthrowing the Shah of Iran. That one destabilized the Middle East and caused decades of wars. If Russia is destabilized, a lot of regions are going to descend into unrest and war. Nukes might be used, or they might merely become "missing". The repercussions of how the West is "dealing with" the Ukraine situation are going to be immense, and they won't be good.

12 posted on 06/22/2023 8:28:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not a government. It's a criminal enterprise. Fear it, but do not respect it.)
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Adding Ukraine to NATO while it is in the middle of a war?

Nothing wrong there.

13 posted on 06/22/2023 8:30:29 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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these people are nuts!


14 posted on 06/22/2023 8:31:42 AM PDT by bantam
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The Russians are pretty ruthless-disgusting too. Just look at their history. Then look at what they’ve been through over the centuries. Can you blame them for being so paranoid? They need to be confined to a nation of Russians. That would break them up to where they’re no longer a great nation like Rome and the British Empire(was). Expanding NATO might be the right thing to do but it will make things worse before they get better. Russia can’t blame Finland for wanting in. It’s the western mind-think that keeps everyone chilled out. I’m wondering if our pull-out would be positive as well as overdue.

The Chicoms are not afraid of a nuclear Holocaust. It’s the Asian mind-think. What’s a million Chinese?


15 posted on 06/22/2023 8:31:43 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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Well, that’s the kind of utter stupidity that just guarantees Russia will make an all-out effort to completely take it over and re-establish “the Borderlands” (the literal translation of Ukraine) as a pro-Russian buffer state.


16 posted on 06/22/2023 8:33:07 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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Ukraine = Biden’s Viet Nam


19 posted on 06/22/2023 8:37:13 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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“In January 2016, the Labour Party proposed an amendment to the Housing and Planning Bill 2016 that would have required private landlords to make homes which they put up for rent “fit for human habitation”. According to Parliament’s register of interests, Cleverly was one of 72 Conservative MPs who voted against the amendment and who personally derived an income from renting out property. The Conservative Government had responded to the amendment by saying that they believed homes should be fit for human habitation but did not want to pass the new law that would explicitly require it.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cleverly


20 posted on 06/22/2023 8:37:31 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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One of the primary reasons this war is raging is Russia did not want the US military and weaponry right on their border that they envisioned with Ukraine NATO membership, much like we didn’t want the Soviet military and their mass destruction weaponry in Cuba and threatened war over it while putting up a blockage against the Russians. The only difference is Ukraine is not a vital national security interest to the US and the Russian kleptocracy is not the global monolithic threat the Soviet Union was. I have no issue with Ukraine having NATO membership provided we withdraw from NATO first and let Europe take care of their regional problem themselves


21 posted on 06/22/2023 8:37:53 AM PDT by chuckee ( )
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Oh really

Biden Pours Cold Water on Ukraine's Hopes to Speed Up NATO Membership
Newsweek ^ | June 17, 2023 | Andrew Stanton

24 posted on 06/22/2023 8:45:32 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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BOOTS WILL SOON BE ON THE GROUND.

only reason this is happening is because they know that Ukraine is losing, contrary to what MarineMom says.

So, when the coffins start coming off C17s and C5s, all you Zelensky Fanbois and Fangirls be proud.


25 posted on 06/22/2023 8:49:28 AM PDT by qaz123
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