Posted on 05/13/2023 7:41:16 PM PDT by ebshumidors
I’ve been watching the Trump vs. DeSantis showdown here and have a few questions. I voted for Trump twice, worked the phones and poll watched for him and am convinced he was the only one for regular Americans. He had the right policies for us. I have two concerns. He is supposedly a germaphobe and I think that influenced his decisions regarding Covid. He also didn’t have a team behind him. Many stabbed him in the back. How would it be different if he was elected for another term?
Regarding Desantis, I watched some of his Iowa stuff and he seems to say the right things. He may even be to the right of Trump on some issues. He also seems to have a good argument about what he’s done in Florida. He doesn’t have Trump’s suburban housewife baggage (who my wife of 31 yrs asked how many times Trump’s been married - she voted for him and we’re not voting for a Pope) but I’m sure they’ll come up with something to hang on him. I know that many have said that he’s beholden to big donors.
I’m on team fight it out for the nomination, After that, I’m on team how do you fix the rig and how do you win I haven’t heard any of that from anyone.
Live in Florida now, would love Trump in high office, and I want DeSantis here for 3 more years.
Don’t post dumb vanities that stir the pot.
I’m also on that team.
We should be able to discuss things without getting ugly.
Trump earned it. It was stolen from him. He was stellar in almost every metric. He is a true patriot.
I felt he had some major failures in COVID, I don’t like his perjorative remarks, he is not aware enough of the dangers of homo agenda, and he seems to have personnel issues. That’s it for my negatives.
Ideally I want him in 2024 and DeSantis in 2028 and 2032. If they would treat each other as respected competitors it would be nice.
Nice.
MAGA voters aren’t on the side of ‘fight out the nomination.’
A stolen election kept incumbent Trump from serving his 2nd term. MAGA believes that.
Trump has incumbent status to millions of MAGA voters.
Any R running against that is certainly in their right.
But MAGA voters have their candidate even if the R team machine doesn’t.
Stolen elections have consequences.
I’ve been leaning towards DeSantis and it began when Trump started giving him stupid nicknames. Of course Trump still has the majority but after listening to DeSantis today, I think he’ll pull in more folks. I’m just not sure how many people watched his 2 speeches today. But then again, I loved Trump’s performance on CNN, so I’m torn.
If you believe that he lost in 2020 due to cheating and the election was stolen while he was the incumbent, how is he, as a non-incumbent, going to stop it this time?
So, why would DeSantis run? He's being paid off by the GOP establishment.
So, you’re saying Trump won’t be allowed to win so conservative should bend the knee and go back to supporting candidates like W and Romney?
He did many good things. Plese show me how he wins in 2024. DeSantis has done better in counties carried by Trump than Trump did, and he did better in Biden counties than Trump did.
DeSantis doesn’t turn off suburban women. He can credibly talk to them about the Democult’s War on Suburbs. But they’re the ones who put Trump in office in 2016 and out in 2020.
DeSantis has barely started to advertise, either, whereas Trump’s people have been taking out ads to go after DeSantis (from the left!)
He won’t and neither will RDS.
I fail to see why the remnants around here insist upon tearing what little unity we have over donald and RDS.
1. We don't need another Ivy League lawyer in Washington.
2. We don't need another career politician who has never worked outside government in the White House.
3. In relative terms, DeSantis is flat broke. He will do whatever his political handlers and financial backers tell him to do. We don't need a managed, manicured tool in the White House.
4. RDS takes days or weeks to say things that Donald Trump says on the spur of the moment because he believes it so firmly that it comes naturally to him. We don't need another hapless, poll-testing phony in the White House.
5. Donald Trump has all the right enemies.
6. Ron DeSantis has all the wrong friends.
7. I won't support any presidential candidate whose home hasn't been raided by the Democrat Gestapo, and who hasn't been prosecuted by a Democrat sh!t-bag prosecutor in a Democrat sh!t-hole jurisdiction.
THE END.
I posted in chat. Is there another place for stupid vanities? BTW, my post was not stirring the pot. It was just asking questions.
No, I’m saying a conservative with a proven record of success likely gives us a better chance than a failed candidate does.
Rarely does a candidate who lost come back and win after that.
GROVER CLEVELAND !
The base knows the real deal when it comes to the candidates. That is why think Ramaswamy might finish ahead of DeSantis if he is dumb enough to run.
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