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Toyota Thinks The Internal Combustion Engine Still Has A Future
Seeking Alpha ^ | 05/05/2023 | Keith Williams

Posted on 05/05/2023 9:26:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: libh8er

I’m no expert on rare minerals or lithium, but there’s sure a lot of battery plants being built that have to run on something. Where’s it going to come from?

Perhaps you saw this article. A guy has a Rivian truck (which is as close to being a truck as an El Camino was) that gets rear-ended, a rather minor accident. But, the bill for repairs is $42,000.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/ent-evs-hidden-costs-man-gets-42000-repair-bill-fender-bender

As the article points out, many of these EV battery packs are non-repairable. A fairly minor collision can damage the cells. To check that out requires a major disassembly of the car.


41 posted on 05/06/2023 5:16:07 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: SeekAndFind

This entire ‘electric car’ thing is just a new way to force a per mile tax on all vehicles as EV DO NOT pay fuel taxes.

Get ready for a black box upgrade to your car in the future.

Stay STRONG Toyota!


42 posted on 05/06/2023 5:18:01 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, we’ll all be living in “15-minute cities” by 2032, so I don’t see why anybody would even need a car, so no problemo, senor. /s


43 posted on 05/06/2023 5:36:13 AM PDT by mumblypeg ("Give me Stalin or St. Paul. I've seen the Future, brother; it is murder."--Leonard Cohen)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Almost everybody who wants a Toyota wants an ICE or Hybrid version.

Nope, my Toyota uses only gas, and I want it that way.

If I were to switch to a different type of Toyota, it would be a Hybrid, because they make sense to me... no running around looking for an electric plug, so I can waste more time "charging my battery".

The hybrid charges the battery from the usage of the car while in motion, no long waits at the butt plug station.

44 posted on 05/06/2023 5:44:40 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: libh8er

Petro is NOT fossil fuel.
However, Biden & Feinstein and other demoncrap politickians are Effedup Fossil Fools.


45 posted on 05/06/2023 6:08:16 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s the EV that’s a Dead-end


46 posted on 05/06/2023 6:08:18 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind

Toyota is advancing hydrogen, and it looks very promising. Vehicles with normal range, normal refuel times, and normal power levels (300hp) - while using less of the rare minerals and only peeing a little water out the exhaust.... I’m drinking coffee from a Ford cup and can see my F150 out the window, the stories on Toyota’s hydrogen fuel cells have my attention.


47 posted on 05/06/2023 6:18:03 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good By Ellen)
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To: libh8er

The US will collapse, and its negative influence on this issue will cease. Nations around the world will continue using gasoline engines, but without the load our economy once put on that resource.


48 posted on 05/06/2023 6:26:49 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: MayflowerMadam
We have Toyotas, as do our friends. Would never consider ICE or hybrid.

ICE stands for "Internal Combustion Engine". That's what most of the Camrys and and Tundras and RAV4s are. I drive and ICE Avalon. Great car.
49 posted on 05/06/2023 6:35:20 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: USS Alaska
Almost everybody who wants a Toyota wants an ICE or Hybrid version.
Nope, my Toyota uses only gas, and I want it that way.

ICE stands for Internal Combustion Engine. Except for diesels, which Toyota doesn't really do here, that means gasoline.
50 posted on 05/06/2023 6:37:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: SeekAndFind

Toyota will survive intact.

None of the others will.


51 posted on 05/06/2023 7:23:19 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: libh8er
EVs are DOA unless radical tech advances appear in the future. All of the below must occur. Even if they occur, the internal combustion engine cannot be fully eliminated for a very, very long time.

1. A revolution in battery tech is required. 10-100 times greater energy density at lower cost, lighter weight and safer

2. Lower electricity cost plus exponentially greater amount of megawatts into the grid. Wind farms and solar are a joke with respect to gross electricity demand.

We are largely built out for hydroelectric electricity except for tidal flow generation on the east and west coasts. Fission nuke plants are hamstrung and and probably face a 20 year process to bring online. Thanks environuts and sympatico regulators.

The nuke solution is likely to come from small scale package fission nuke plants and longer term fusion nuke plants. The tech is here now for small scale package nuke plants - Just need someone to pull the trigger and build the first ones.

We can hope for Mr. Fusion powered cars, right?

3. Prime mover powered machinery is DOA for electrification. The quantity of energy required is way too great. Think trains, farm equipment and ships.

My opinions…

52 posted on 05/06/2023 7:36:28 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: SeekAndFind

Toyota gives Biden the finger combustion engine are here to stay new fuels also save the day.

FJB


53 posted on 05/06/2023 7:49:45 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: ModelBreaker

Bingo.


54 posted on 05/06/2023 9:16:02 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: MileHi

RE: so does BEV mean something?

Yes BEV stands for Battery (powered) Electric Vehicle.


55 posted on 05/06/2023 10:44:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

OK


56 posted on 05/06/2023 11:05:00 AM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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We bought a Toyota Corolla last year to offset the high miles we put on two vehicles that cannot be replaced. That Corolla is one of the best buys over any EV thingy. Its base price is $22,500, and totally fitted, taxed, and licensed it was right at $27,000. It has been getting 37.5mpg city and 42mpg highway. Maintenance for 2 years is free, and after that it is pretty much still cheap. Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) is FAR less than any electric vehicle, and it will run long enough to replace it in a few years.


57 posted on 05/06/2023 11:20:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: libh8er

That is TRUE!

If we used hydrogen internal combustion engine which burns hydrogen and produces water, the pagan cult of environMENTALism would complain that the water vapor produced was contributing to climate change.

We have to wait for people like Algore to die and to form a line to piss on his grave.


58 posted on 05/06/2023 11:32:36 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel ( )
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To: Dr. Sivana
ICE stands for Internal Combustion Engine.

I'm 82, and don't know the meaning of every three letter abbreviation, sorry if that offended you.

59 posted on 05/07/2023 10:16:39 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: USS Alaska
I'm 82, and don't know the meaning of every three letter abbreviation, sorry if that offended you.

I wasn't offended. You misunderstood the meaning of my original post, and I was just clarifying. I was on a phone, and my fat fingers don't do well with long words.
60 posted on 05/07/2023 10:55:42 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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