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EVs Fall Short of EPA Estimates by Much More Than Gas Cars
Car & Driver ^ | 21 Apr 2023 | Caleb Miller

Posted on 04/22/2023 11:15:10 AM PDT by Paal Gulli

EVs Fall Short of EPA Estimates by a Much Larger Margin Than Gas Cars in Our Real-World Highway Testing

While internal-combustion cars often match or exceed their EPA highway fuel economy numbers, a new paper using data from C/D's highway tests show that EVs are far worse at meeting expectations.

By Caleb MillerPublished: Apr 21, 2023

A new paper published by SAE International uses Car and Driver's real-world highway test data to show that electric vehicles underperform on real-world efficiency and range relative to the EPA figures by a much greater margin than internal-combustion vehicles. While the latter typically meet or exceed the EPA-estimated highway fuel economy numbers, EVs tend to fall considerably short of the range number on the window sticker...

... On Car and Driver's 75-mph highway test, more than 350 internal-combustion vehicles averaged 4.0 percent better fuel economy than what was stated on their labels. But the average range for an EV was 12.5 percent worse than the price sticker numbers....

(Excerpt) Read more at caranddriver.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: automotive; ecars; electric; endurance; ev
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It's not as straightforward as "EVs don't get the mileage claimed," C&D blames EPA test procedures that don't reflect real-world driving conditions.
1 posted on 04/22/2023 11:15:10 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit. “You lie!”


2 posted on 04/22/2023 11:16:33 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Paal Gulli

EVs are a DEAD-END


3 posted on 04/22/2023 11:17:28 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Paal Gulli

As if “they” give a crap.


4 posted on 04/22/2023 11:22:01 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Paal Gulli

Sounds like a waste of electricity.


5 posted on 04/22/2023 11:23:41 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Paal Gulli

Various sources say that EV’s are neither energy economical nor “environmentally friendly” (in terms of total carbon output) until sometime between their 8th-11th year of use.

And by that time, the vast majority will have been scrapped.


6 posted on 04/22/2023 11:30:38 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Paal Gulli

HAHAHA EVs use electricity generated by burning fossil fuels.


7 posted on 04/22/2023 11:33:27 AM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Paal Gulli

Say, any Freepers here live in or were in Connecticut yesterday? Were you anywhere near Groton around noon? I was!

What happened was a gas tanker (truck) was involved in an accident on a bridge and exploded and set buildings under it on fire, and the problem is Connecticut roads - at least around that area - are not built for emergencies, they are very few alternatives to major areas so as a result I was stuck in traffic for TEN HOURS!!! Yes, TEN HOURS, from about noon to about 10 at night until I was finally able to escape over the bridge at 2A.

Tell me: Would you feel confident sitting in an electric car for 10 hours?

https://www.fox61.com/article/news/local/car-fire-shuts-down-interstate-95-groton-connecticut-gold-star-bridge/520-511b5c68-d30b-43a9-a80f-559ede539f3a


8 posted on 04/22/2023 11:34:43 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yikes. Where did everyone go to the bathroom?


9 posted on 04/22/2023 11:39:12 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Paal Gulli

EV’s might make sense if we were generating electricity via the new types of nuke generating platforms.

They are fun to drive, I drove a Ford Mach-E GT the other day and it was scary quick. Would I buy one? Nope.

This “green” stuff is BS brought to us by morons like AOC and Al Gore who simply are not smart enough to do anything but politics and figure out how to construct ways to fleece people with insane ideas. I’m super serial....


10 posted on 04/22/2023 11:41:33 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (1218 - NEVER FORGET!)
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To: crusty old prospector

Lined the railing of the bridge trying to help put out the fire.


11 posted on 04/22/2023 11:43:07 AM PDT by Roccus (Veritas, non verba magistri)
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To: Paal Gulli

I got 30.50 mpg in a 22 year old Pontiac v6 at constant speeds over 75 mph over some 350 miles.


12 posted on 04/22/2023 11:45:43 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Paal Gulli

The energy consumption due to carrying the weight of the battery offsets many of the supposed advantages.


13 posted on 04/22/2023 11:50:15 AM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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The energy consumption due to carrying the weight of the battery offsets many of the supposed advantages.

There are no advantages whatsoever. Not even in 'fuel' efficiency.
14 posted on 04/22/2023 1:20:01 PM PDT by adorno
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To: butlerweave

Big deadend for EV’s is the fact that the batteries have to be changed after 30k miles at a cost of $30k.


15 posted on 04/22/2023 1:30:06 PM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: Paal Gulli

not that it matters

cuz most will be on the bus

after the gas cars are banned


16 posted on 04/22/2023 1:37:28 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Paal Gulli

We have electric cars because the federal government subsidizes them. That is the only reason.


17 posted on 04/22/2023 2:21:42 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: butlerweave

EV’s are a waste of resources.


18 posted on 04/22/2023 2:22:12 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Paal Gulli

“While internal-combustion cars often match or exceed their EPA highway fuel economy numbers...”

That’s a laugh.


19 posted on 04/22/2023 3:47:13 PM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most importan.t election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: chopperk

I don’t think they are that bad. I think they can last ten years and 250k if charged slowly. I have a friend with a Tesla with 150k 6 years old original battery. Nice car. I wouldn’t buy one. She thinks she is saving the planet. Nice lady but really full of youknowhat about the real world.


20 posted on 04/22/2023 4:23:14 PM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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