Posted on 04/14/2023 1:26:10 AM PDT by Libloather
Just hours after Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed into law bills expanding background checks for firearm purchases and safe storage requirements, the Michigan House approved a series of bills to enact a so-called "red flag" law that would empower courts in the state to temporarily take away guns from those deemed dangerous.
The vote comes after Senate Democrats last month passed similar legislation. All Democratic-backed bills in the state House passed on party-line votes after lawmakers adopted amendments Thursday to address due process concerns raised by law enforcement and modify the process for applying and appealing extreme risk protection orders issued by courts under the proposed red flag law.
The two chambers must agree on the final versions of the bills before they can go to Whitmer for her signature.
**SNIP**
Changes worked out during bill negotiations ultimately gained support from law enforcement before the votes Thursday. Dan Pfannes, deputy director for the Michigan Sheriffs' Association, thanked lawmakers for the opportunity to provide input on the legislation. The Michigan Fraternal Order of Police also expressed support for the bills, according to Breen.
One major change to the legislation would require that an individual petitioning a court for an extreme risk protection order show the order is necessary because someone is at risk of injuring themselves or someone else with the firearm specifically in the near future. Another change would give those under an extreme risk protection order opportunities to ask the court to rescind the order twice during the year the order is in effect.
Some former law enforcement officers serving in the House raised objections to the bills. State Rep. Mike Harris, R-Waterford, said requiring law enforcement to execute extreme risk protection orders and confiscate guns from those deemed dangerous could put officers at risk by creating potentially volatile situations.
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due process?
second amendment??
Seize guns from all Demonrats. They’re the dangerous criminals.
Im not here to debate the definition of "a threat" with you because each case is different. and it would take forever to debate you, mean while mentally ill angry individuals are shooting up schools because no one could get them committed.
I'll say this, if you or anyone else are red flagged, there should be the ability the face the accuser within 72 hours to establish if you are a threat or the accuser was just disgruntled with you.
> Sorry steve, your right to keep and bear arms stops when you become threat to anyone who doesnt deserve it.ie: the person was acting in self defense.
i can’t even parse that, much less make sense of it or reconcile it with 2a.
> Im not here to debate the definition of “a threat” with you because each case is different. and it would take forever to debate you, mean while mentally ill angry individuals are shooting up schools because no one could get them committed.
ok no debate. but it makes me curious. i am curious about you. do you wear high heels when you are off duty? because you sound like the type.
you kmow, stompy-swishy, stompy-swishy? that type of “i am not here to debate.”
bless your heart
Does this mean that they are gonna disarm all the alphabet soup groups?
𝘥𝘶𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴?
Currently eradicated at the federal level, and slowly being eradicated at multiple state levels.
𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵??
Currently being eradicated at the state level in blue states, with some red state RINO governors appear to acquiesce on the idea of things like ref flag laws. Under heavy attack at the federal level.
And by temporary, leftists mean permanent.
democrats are evil as are all their voters.
The People of Michigan deserve all that the Democrats can dish on them..and more!
It’s almost like they are telling you not to keep all your guns in the same place.
Note that it “ gained support from law enforcement ” and “ confiscate guns from those deemed dangerous could put officers at risk by creating potentially volatile situations.”
Again the police are NOT your friends and apparently were OK with violating due process and willing to ignore the second amendment, BUT didn’t want to put themselves at risk.
And all gun owners are deemed dangerous
A must for this type of legislstion: legal fee recovery if it is later found the guns were illegally seized or seized for political reasons.
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Who watches the watchers?
It’s just for the good of the children, you know.
More U Hals just left dying Michigan forsunny Florida.
So instead of shooting themselves they jump off an overpass into the path of a speeding 18 wheeler or take a handful of sleeping pills or rent a truck and plow through the people on the sidewalk? Is that better than using a gun?
Of course not. It focuses on an inanimate object rather than the person.
And who, may I ask, does the deeming?
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