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Michigan House OKs red flag bills to temporarily seize guns from those deemed dangerous
Detroit Free Press via MSN ^ | 4/13/23 | Clara Hendrickson

Posted on 04/14/2023 1:26:10 AM PDT by Libloather

Just hours after Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed into law bills expanding background checks for firearm purchases and safe storage requirements, the Michigan House approved a series of bills to enact a so-called "red flag" law that would empower courts in the state to temporarily take away guns from those deemed dangerous.

The vote comes after Senate Democrats last month passed similar legislation. All Democratic-backed bills in the state House passed on party-line votes after lawmakers adopted amendments Thursday to address due process concerns raised by law enforcement and modify the process for applying and appealing extreme risk protection orders issued by courts under the proposed red flag law.

The two chambers must agree on the final versions of the bills before they can go to Whitmer for her signature.

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Changes worked out during bill negotiations ultimately gained support from law enforcement before the votes Thursday. Dan Pfannes, deputy director for the Michigan Sheriffs' Association, thanked lawmakers for the opportunity to provide input on the legislation. The Michigan Fraternal Order of Police also expressed support for the bills, according to Breen.

One major change to the legislation would require that an individual petitioning a court for an extreme risk protection order show the order is necessary because someone is at risk of injuring themselves or someone else with the firearm specifically in the near future. Another change would give those under an extreme risk protection order opportunities to ask the court to rescind the order twice during the year the order is in effect.

Some former law enforcement officers serving in the House raised objections to the bills. State Rep. Mike Harris, R-Waterford, said requiring law enforcement to execute extreme risk protection orders and confiscate guns from those deemed dangerous could put officers at risk by creating potentially volatile situations.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; History; Local News
KEYWORDS: 2a; 5a; banglist; bill; dueprocess; flag; frloather; gannett; guns; michigan; redflaglaw; redflaglaws
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Whitler will make the final decision. Don't worry about it. It's for your own good.
1 posted on 04/14/2023 1:26:10 AM PDT by Libloather
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due process?

second amendment??


2 posted on 04/14/2023 1:38:49 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Libloather

Seize guns from all Demonrats. They’re the dangerous criminals.


3 posted on 04/14/2023 1:41:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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Sorry steve, your right to keep and bear arms stops when you become threat to anyone who doesnt deserve it.ie: the person was acting in self defense.

Im not here to debate the definition of "a threat" with you because each case is different. and it would take forever to debate you, mean while mentally ill angry individuals are shooting up schools because no one could get them committed.

I'll say this, if you or anyone else are red flagged, there should be the ability the face the accuser within 72 hours to establish if you are a threat or the accuser was just disgruntled with you.

4 posted on 04/14/2023 2:12:30 AM PDT by Ikeon
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> Sorry steve, your right to keep and bear arms stops when you become threat to anyone who doesnt deserve it.ie: the person was acting in self defense.

i can’t even parse that, much less make sense of it or reconcile it with 2a.

> Im not here to debate the definition of “a threat” with you because each case is different. and it would take forever to debate you, mean while mentally ill angry individuals are shooting up schools because no one could get them committed.

ok no debate. but it makes me curious. i am curious about you. do you wear high heels when you are off duty? because you sound like the type.

you kmow, stompy-swishy, stompy-swishy? that type of “i am not here to debate.”

bless your heart


5 posted on 04/14/2023 2:22:31 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Libloather

Does this mean that they are gonna disarm all the alphabet soup groups?


6 posted on 04/14/2023 2:25:15 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: SteveH

𝘥𝘶𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴?

Currently eradicated at the federal level, and slowly being eradicated at multiple state levels.

𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵??

Currently being eradicated at the state level in blue states, with some red state RINO governors appear to acquiesce on the idea of things like ref flag laws. Under heavy attack at the federal level.


7 posted on 04/14/2023 3:00:00 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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And by temporary, leftists mean permanent.

democrats are evil as are all their voters.


8 posted on 04/14/2023 3:01:10 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Libloather

The People of Michigan deserve all that the Democrats can dish on them..and more!


9 posted on 04/14/2023 3:43:40 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Libloather

It’s almost like they are telling you not to keep all your guns in the same place.


10 posted on 04/14/2023 5:02:09 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: SteveH

Note that it “ gained support from law enforcement ” and “ confiscate guns from those deemed dangerous could put officers at risk by creating potentially volatile situations.”

Again the police are NOT your friends and apparently were OK with violating due process and willing to ignore the second amendment, BUT didn’t want to put themselves at risk.


11 posted on 04/14/2023 5:44:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Libloather

And all gun owners are deemed dangerous


12 posted on 04/14/2023 5:46:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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A must for this type of legislstion: legal fee recovery if it is later found the guns were illegally seized or seized for political reasons.


13 posted on 04/14/2023 6:51:56 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Libloather; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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14 posted on 04/14/2023 7:03:06 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SteveH

Who watches the watchers?


15 posted on 04/14/2023 7:05:17 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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To: Libloather
All right GOA, get on it and sue immediately.
16 posted on 04/14/2023 7:46:37 AM PDT by cowboyusa (IT'S TIME TO PLAY COWBOYS AND MARXISTS!)
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To: Libloather

It’s just for the good of the children, you know.


17 posted on 04/14/2023 7:47:25 AM PDT by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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More U Hals just left dying Michigan forsunny Florida.


18 posted on 04/14/2023 9:19:32 AM PDT by cowboyusa (IT'S TIME TO PLAY COWBOYS AND MARXISTS!)
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To: Libloather

So instead of shooting themselves they jump off an overpass into the path of a speeding 18 wheeler or take a handful of sleeping pills or rent a truck and plow through the people on the sidewalk? Is that better than using a gun?

Of course not. It focuses on an inanimate object rather than the person.


19 posted on 04/14/2023 11:29:09 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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And who, may I ask, does the deeming?


20 posted on 04/14/2023 11:54:29 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Land is simply a place I visit until I can return to the sea.)
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