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Wall Street — not taxpayers — will pay for the SVB and Signature deposit relief plans
CNBC.com ^ | 3/12/2023 | Christina Wilkie

Posted on 03/12/2023 7:14:06 PM PDT by Beave Meister

WASHINGTON — Plans announced Sunday to fully reimburse deposits made in the collapsed Silicon Valley Bank and the shuttered Signature Bank will rely on Wall Street and large financial institutions — not taxpayers — to foot the bill, Treasury officials said.

“For the banks that were put into receivership, the FDIC will use funds from the Deposit Insurance Fund to ensure that all of its depositors are made whole,” said a senior Treasury Department official, who spoke to reporters Sunday about the plan on the condition of anonymity.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: bailout; collapsed; deposits; esg; fakenews; fdic; homosexualagenda; signaturebank; siliconvalleybank; svb; treasury; treasurydepartment; ustreasury; wallstreet
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To: usconservative

If you consider a business’s auto insurance on their vehicles to be taxpayers’ money, then, yes, the FDIC fund is taxpayers’ money.


61 posted on 03/12/2023 9:00:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Beave Meister

Nope, how it will be paid is by printing more money, which will ignite inflation even higher. It’s invisible and the politicians think we think their hands are clean.


62 posted on 03/12/2023 9:01:59 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: CFW
ah thanx...i forgot the (/sarcasm) tag

Flippin RATS just don't get it...censor must be their middle name...they all have tin ears...
63 posted on 03/12/2023 9:04:53 PM PDT by stylin19a (Artillery Brings Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be Just A Vulgar Brawl)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
So what is BoA and JP Morgan’s role? They are supposedly part of the deal.

Let me think that thru for a minute. SVB gets cash from FDIC. SVB owes nothing on that because it’s insurance that they paid for. The cash from FDIC does not cover accounts over $250k. The Fed can lend cash to SVB. That covers other shortages, but doesn’t fix SVB’s balance sheet. SVB still has junk AFS and there’s an offsetting liability to the Fed. I bet SVB is trading junk AFS for good ASF with BoA and JP Morgan plus cash from the Fed to make BoA and JP Morgan whole. It’s a matter of percentages. SVG just needs to get to a better mix of asset classes. This is about spreading risk between three banks. Even so, there is a systemic problem with junk assets. As long as the Fed raises interest rates, asset values will continue to fall. They are speculating that by diversifying asset types that the weighted average will not drive SVB broke.

I don’t like it. It’s bundling and packaging to reduce risk, a play off of 2008, packaging subprime mortgages, except this time it’s bonds.

64 posted on 03/12/2023 9:14:16 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: ConservativeInPA
So what is BoA and JP Morgan's role? They are supposedly part of the deal.

As far as I've seen, they play no part.

SVB still has junk AFS

AFAIK, not junk, just Treasuries worth less than what they paid.

I bet SVB is trading junk AFS for good ASF with BoA and JP Morgan plus cash from the Fed to make BoA and JP Morgan whole.

None of that is needed. The bank run is over. The FDIC will look for a buyer.

65 posted on 03/12/2023 9:26:37 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I think the BoA and JP Morgan involvement came from the title of the article and a quote from the article: Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., insisted that "If there is a bailout of Silicon Valley Bank, it must be 100 percent financed by Wall Street and large financial institutions." Plus detail from another poster that named BoA and JP Morgan. I originally replied to that poster and you replied to my reply. Confusing enough? This crap happens when government is not transparent and specific. It leads to me running through scenarios. I still don’t understand how a single buyer fixes SVB. There’s too much weakness to assume. SVB was technically insolvent in September. It’s only gotten worse. That leads to another set of questions about how regulators let that go and why the problems were not fixed earlier. You also have to consider Yellen and Powell have to deal with 20 other banks teetering on insolvency now that the cat is out of the bag. There’s no hiding it. Cash is only a temporary fix unless the Fed drops interest rates. Wait until inflation numbers come out this week and the next fomc meeting.

I need to go to bed and adjust to DST. Good night & talk to you later.

66 posted on 03/12/2023 9:44:13 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: Beave Meister

Sure.

We end up paying for everything.


67 posted on 03/12/2023 9:44:29 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: stylin19a

Those 80k+ new IRS agents will be busy searching everyone’s couches for change.


68 posted on 03/12/2023 10:39:36 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: ConservativeInPA

They’re not insolvent. The problem is they don’t have the funds to handle everyone wanting out RIGHT NOW.
Because a lot of their holdings are in US Treasuries which only pay a couple of percent. Those are “guaranteed” — but if they redeem them “right now” they can’t get the full face value for them (why pay the same price for something paying 1.99% as something paying 5% ?)

If people had tried to pull their money out at a slower rate it wouldn’t have been a problem.

Almost an own-goal on SVB’s part: they noticed the issue and quietly tried to raise money through sale of *some*, and also a secondary stock offering. But doing that made some people notice, who put 2 and 2 together, and demanded quick withdrawals, which caused the very thing SVB was trying to avoid.


69 posted on 03/12/2023 11:22:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Beave Meister

Lies, lies and more lies from the democrat party’s information warfare wing.


70 posted on 03/12/2023 11:49:57 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Beave Meister

... “Wall Street and large financial institutions — not taxpayers — to foot the bill” ...

So these firms/institutions voluntarily decided to buy garbage? Who negotiated the terms? Exactly who were the final decision makers? What’s guaranteed? Can anyone actually perform due diligence in 5 f’n days?

I got more Q’s than A’s.


71 posted on 03/13/2023 4:24:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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To: delta7
I would love to see the list of who they are bailing out in California.

You won't have to wait long, they'll be on the list of campaign donors to the DNC and the Biden campaign.

72 posted on 03/13/2023 4:30:21 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Drago
I understand what a moral hazard is. And I understand how moral hazards played into the 2008 banking fiasco.

I’m just not sure what moral hazard was involved in THIS situation with SVB. All indications are that a major factor in its collapse was that the bank was too conservative in its reserve investments.

73 posted on 03/13/2023 5:12:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: grey_whiskers
They’re not insolvent.Bull chit. They are unable to meet their current and most important obligations…their depositors. They do not have the cash and liquid assets. That’s piss poor management. Don’t twist it any other way. You sound like a pussy ass leftist that changes the meaning of words to not take responsibility.
74 posted on 03/13/2023 6:10:32 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So these firms/institutions voluntarily decided to buy garbage?

They bought long-term US Treasuries.

75 posted on 03/13/2023 6:17:50 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Cool your jets.
Insolvent means “broke” in layman’s terms.
Illiquid means, they have it but can’t get to it.

If you treated all their govt. bonds at face value, they have the money.
But if you force them to sell the bonds *right now*, the sudden rise to higher interest rates, mean that if they “liquidate” them, they can’t get full face value right now: who would pay the same price for a bond paying 1.99%, as for a brand new bond paying 4% ?

It wouldn’t have been a problem except too many people showed up wanting to pull all their deposits at the same time.

And ironically, that started because the back became aware of the issue and tried to sell off a *few* bonds quietly, and push a stock offering, to raise cash until new interest rates calmed down / some of their low-price bonds matured...only people saw that, and panicked.

They started the stampede they were trying to avoid.

But two other issues;
1) they weren’t hosting Mom&Pop accounts, but small businesses, who NEED very liquid accounts so they can cut paychecks every two weeks
2) They way overinvested in “safe” govt. securities; and never stopped to think what would happen to their portfolio if the Fed suddenly goosed interest rates.


76 posted on 03/13/2023 6:19:37 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
They are unable to meet their current and most important obligations…their depositors.

Which banks are able to meet all their obligations in a few days?

77 posted on 03/13/2023 6:20:06 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Beave Meister

Largest bank in England HSBC brokered a deal over the weekend to buy Silicon Valley Bank and settle the debt.

Breitbart


78 posted on 03/13/2023 8:22:48 AM PDT by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: Beave Meister

Do they not know that investors in Wall Street are taxpayers?


79 posted on 03/13/2023 8:27:16 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Vaduz
Largest bank in England HSBC brokered a deal over the weekend to buy Silicon Valley Bank and settle the debt.

The UK division only.

80 posted on 03/13/2023 11:35:02 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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