I’d say the hospital. They could have put her in the waiting room until all is assured. The police trusted the hospital having taken readings and ensured she was healthy enough to be discharged.
Both. Both contributed.
This plays out all the time.
The last people you want to see if you’re having a diabetic blood sugar problem, or stroke, or other medical problem, are the police. So many have wound up dead from the police going full-on thug on them, or ignoring the problem.
if they cleared her, they cleared her....
its a very sad situation...
I cannot believe how poor the writing of this piece is.
Worst part:
Officers can be heard being brusque with her, telling her to ‘help them help her’ as she starts wheezing and slurring her words while wearing a hospital
The hospital’s prior actions and communications with the police aside, the security guards and every officer treated the woman like a drunk or someone on drugs (or just a disdain for what they perceived as a deadbeat faker).
Why? Because she wasn’t black, Hispanic or some other protected minority with whom they knew they’d face some outcry afterwards. Will there be BLM, ANTIFA, the ACLU or any other group besides some scumbag lawyers at the ready now? Likely not.
Personally, my guess is that the hospital found out that she had no money, no insurance and probably couldn’t run up enough charges on Medicaid to make it worth their time.
WTG, Knoxville.
The police were called to have her removed from the hospital, so even if they did deem her in need of treatment, the hospital would not have admitted her because they just rejected herhad already rejected her/thrown her out.
She should’ve OD’d on fentanyl and tried to pass counterfeit bills…..then we could blame the police for contributing to her death.
The police merely manhandling a stroke patient and assisting in preventing her from obtaining basic medical assistance……why of course that had no contribution……
Hospital’s fault. The doctors are the medical experts, not the police.
They’re both going to receive letters from attorneys, I’m sure. Probably more liability on the hospital.
Funny thing, if she were an illegal alien or a “homeless” person, they’d have put her up in a room for as long as she wanted.
In any event, why did they have to arrest her? Couldn’t they just have called a relative to come get her? Was no one there to be her advocate? It ain’t your daddy’s “healthcare” anymore, that’s for sure. NEVER go to a hospital without someone to watch out for your well-being.
The police did spend an hour & 16 minutes trying to get her to come along willingly. Cops are not trained medical personnel. Sadly, people seeking medical attention is the 3rd leading cause of deaths, at the hands of medical professionals. In some ways I almost feel that people are being unrealistic about how the police should react in situations like this.
Tragic outcome for sure, but I feel there is more to this story, yet the blame is being laid at the feet of the police. I blame the hospital for not calling her family members to come pick her up. If they did call the family first, then the blame shifts to the family for no doing so.
Cops didn’t care. Elderly white woman = no consequences.
All of them. Poor woman
Trying to get help and beinf refused by everyone who’s supposed to help
The hospital and the police got their wish — one less undesirable person. Sick.
I don't know if it would have helped her or not, I don't know if having an asthma attack could lead to the stroke, or if it wouldn't make any difference, but I don't understand why he didn't offer it to her. She was asking for it.
Then, once she was in the back of the patrol car, her breathing was so horrific that there's no way anyone with a brain could think she was faking it. And you can hear her breathing get worse and worse... then fainter and fainter... and it's clear by the 1:08:30 mark that she's not breathing anymore. And he's just driving along, yelling, "Sit up!" at her. It's really appalling.
“I can’t breathe”, then DIES in police custody?
Sound familiar?
Last time the cops were convicted of MURDER. (unjustly)
Ive been away from FR since late November. I nearly died in a similar story. Symptoms had stopped when we arrived at the ER and after a little while they wanted to send me away because nothing was happening (no, they werent full or busy). It must have just been something minor he said, maybe it will come back later and I should return...
The physician reconsidered because I was insistent that there was something wrong and he decided to send me for a CAT first. The symptoms came back even worse than what sent me in to the ER when they added the dye. I started yelling and had them pull me out and take me back.
Physician began commenting around the time that my beats per minute reached 270 that people werent suppose to be conscious at that point. Somewhere after 280, then 290, he said that people werent suppose to stay alive with that type of arrhythmia either, then he mentioned 300 but didnt say where it topped out. He was too busy then.
After a heart attack, multiple bypasses, and a stroke later
Im at home recovering now. It seems I got lucky(?) in that it was a rather large clot and that a friend from work was visiting and recognized it from our training because they wouldnt have at the hospital until it was too late. It got lodged at the end of the M1 where it bifurcates so the damage was more spread out but to a lesser degree to any one area than if it had gotten further and stuck somewhere that would have been more difficult to get out. It seems that it was in the heart when everything got started to begin with not as subsequent to the rest of the procedures but I wont bore you with those details.
Seems kinda serious for someone that the physician seemed to think was just being a hypochondriac but I dont have a medical degree so Im probably just over reacting...
Hospital. Cops were relying on the hospitals professional judgment and simply executing the trespassing complaint.