Posted on 02/22/2023 6:25:19 PM PST by Golden Eagle
Far and away the most common question I get from those who took one of the COVID-19 vaccines is: “how do I get this out of my body.” The mRNA and adenoviral DNA products were rolled out with no idea on how or when the body would ever breakdown the genetic code. The synthetic mRNA carried on lipid nanoparticles appears to be resistant to breakdown by human ribonucleases by design so the product would be long-lasting and produce the protein product of interest for a considerable time period. This would be an advantage for a normal human protein being replaced in a rare genetic deficiency state (e.g. alpha galactosidase in Fabry’s disease). However, it is a big problem when the protein is the pathogenic SARS-CoV-2 Spike. The adenoviral DNA (Janssen) should broken down by deoxyribonuclease, however this has not be exhaustively studied.
This leaves dissolution of Spike protein as a therapeutic goal for the vaccine injured. With the respiratory infection, Spike is processed and activated by cellular proteases including transmembrane serine protein 2 (TMPRSS2), cathepsin, and furin. With vaccination, these systems may be avoided by systemic administration and production of Spike protein within cells. As a result, the pathogenesis of vaccine injury syndromes is believed to be driven by accumulation of Spike protein in cells, tissues, and organs.
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I am having trouble understanding your question. Do you mean the SARS1 experimental vaccines that bombed out in the animal testing? How do know the genome was “never isolated in a lab setting”? Can you post a link or something?
Look it up. Covid 19 has never been conclusively ever isolated in Lab setting.
And you are right in that there is no Coronavirus Vaccine that can ever be made due to the fact it Mutates constantly and there was failure at ever attempt at the Animal testing stage, all the lab animals died.
Actually, the lab animals were sacrificed (killed) and their tissues examined. They may have died had the course been allowed to run out.
You are the one making the assertion that the genome was never mapped, therefore it is up to you to provide the link.
Here is a link demonstrating the Covid virus genome was indeed mapped (one among many):
https://news.mit.edu/2021/map-sars-cov-2-genome-0511
You seem to think a whole virus vaccine could not be produced without the genome map, but that is not true. We had whole virus (live, attenuated and killed) vaccines long, long before we could map genomes. Smallpox, polio, rabies ... the list goes on and on. All you need is the bloody virus.
I have seen posters on FR claiming the genome for SARS-CoV-2 was never mapped, but never with any proof. Some of these posters also believe there is no such thing as a Covid virus and the disease was entirely caused by “vaccines”.
Oops. I got so interested in that question, I forgot to address the last part of your comment.
Yes, every vaccine (and drug) has its risks. We have to look at the risk/benefit ratio. According to this study, it looks like young males would have done better taking their chances with catching Covid over taking the Moderna vaccine:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0
The smallpox vaccines administered to our troops also had their risks (including myocarditis):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4368609/
I agree about the Covid vaccines not being subjected to the long (7-10 years) clinical trials vaccines normally have to pass before becoming available to the general public. It was utterly horrifying to me that anyone would think it was okay to *mandate* a vaccine issued under an EUA.
Without such rigorous trials, there was no way to calculate a proper risk/benefit ratio. Now we know that, for young males, the risk/benefit ratio comes down on the side of taking one’s chances with actually contracting Covid is preferable to taking the Moderna vaccine (see first link). But we did not know that back when. There is a whole lot we know now we did not know back when.
I think the jury is still out on mRNA vaccines. The Covid vaccines are the only ones to ever be tried out on human beings on a large scale. As you can see from my second link, the old smallpox vaccines also had considerable risks, especially for young males. Again, I totally agree about the lengthy trials for previous vaccines vs the rushed Covid vaccines.
The study in question (not some Twitter image, but the actual study in question):
https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/journal-scans/2023/01/17/18/00/circulating-spike-protein
This is perhaps an important insight into why certain individuals do not clear the Spike proteins and develop myocarditis following vaccination (vs the vast majority who do not) and opens avenues for further research. In fact, it opens up a lot of avenues for further research.
It does not prove that every person who received the vaccines has this reaction to it. The contrary.
See my #84 for more:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4133137/posts?page=84#84
Goof. Should read “vs the vast majority who do” — not “do not”.
To clarify the last paragraph in my comment #79:
The animals’ immune systems overreacted to the live SARS1 virus upon challenge after vaccination, going haywire and attacking host tissues. The animals did not have such a response to the vaccine itself. They were fine until challenged.
Which is kind of the opposite of what you want a vaccine to do.
While with humans, the jabs (not vaccines) cause the spike protein to end up in the blood, and cells to present spike protein on their surfaces, all over the body.
And the body overexpresses IgG4, leading the body to treat subsequent real virus as a pest to be tolerated.
Which is another thing you don't want real vaccines doing.
TROLL.
Ref your “Which is kind of the opposite of what you want a vaccine to do.”
Exactly! This part of your comment is correct and true. The rest, not.
(Yes, I am doing my best to “accent the positive” lol))
Early on, they thought Covid was spread only by droplet, not airborne (aerosolized). Many, many viruses can be spread via droplet (monkeypox, for instance). Airborne viruses (such as chickenpox) can be spread from one hospital floor to another, despite stringent protocols. They are h*** on wheels.
Hence, while thinking this, they flat out lied when they claimed masks were useless — and later Fauci had to admit they lied because they were afraid we little people would snag all the masks which were in short supply, leaving too few for frontline healthcare workers. Well, we had too few for healthcare workers anyway, thanks to not having sufficient stocks on hand and our reliance on importing masks from China.
The idea that a stupid bandana or cloth mask could protect one from an airborne virus was ludicrous, but they recommended them anyway (as a way of giving us a way of feeling more in control and protected, despite the facts). A sort of “magic talisman”, if you will.
The truth: initial viral load counts when it comes to severity of Covid and our immune system being able to adequately respond to it. We now know Covid is airborne, not just spread by droplet. Social distancing does not protect one from an airborne virus nearly as well as it does from a virus only spread via droplet. It *is* also spread by droplet, however, and you can inhale a whole honking load more virus via droplet.
I am not at all surprised that studies showed masking did no good among the general population. People were not properly wearing (”chin diapers” anyone?) or handling masks, and were reusing them. N95 masks were not properly fitted. The sensationalist claims about the size of the virus vs the size of the “holes” in surgical masks were stupid — surgical masks use a variety of methods to trap viruses, including electrostatic, not just mechanical. All that said, no, a mask, even properly fitted and handled will not provide 100% protection from an airborne virus. It will provide some protection (properly handled) against high initial viral load should you be exposed to such.
No wonder people lost confidence in their “governing authorities” and considered them untrustworthy. I had already grown suspicious of them (as many who have had to navigate our healthcare system as an advocate and caregiver for an elderly patient do, but I won’t veer off subject on that).
And it’s no wonder some people adopted “magical talismans” of their own in opposition, like HCQ and ivermectin. The in vitro studies of HCQ being effective against SARS1 were compelling (even though just in vitro) and I’m sure I would have tried it when I got Covid, only I got it so early on, there had yet to be any mention of it. I sat on the fence for over a year re HCQ and ivermectin. The earlier studies showed mixed results. As someone who has followed such studies for years, I knew that meant both were likely ineffective or only marginally effective, but I still held out hope. Both are cheap and easily accessed drugs. I knew proper large-scale studies were being conducted and waited for results from those.
Well, it turned they are not effective on their own. Some insist they work to combat Covid because they are ionsphores of zinc. Well, that makes a lot of sense. We have no well-done large-scale studies of either being administered along with zinc. So it it is quite possible they are helpful when administered along with zinc. But why not just take quercetin + zinc? Quercetin is also an ionosphere of zinc and has lots of other health benefits, and none of the potential drawbacks of HCQ and ivermectin. Plus, you can just order it from Amazon. No need to spend a bunch of $ getting it via those grifters at Frontline Doctors.
When MABs (which really do work like a charm) became available, I lost some interest in HCQ and ivermectin, but still watched and hoped. It was a true scandal that info on how to get MABs was not more readily available. I can’t help wondering how many died because of that. I’m so grateful I knew about it and how to get it right away when my loved ones got the Delta variant.
Agree on the amount of trust one has on the “authority”. I don’t automatically trust *any*. I dive down deep into the nitty gritty of each claim and study. There were “studies” from accepted “authorities” I questioned from the get-go. There were interpretations of studies presented by the likes of Steve Kirsch and Stew Peters that turned out to be laughable lies. (And don’t get me started on math-challenged Naomi Wolf and Kory, etc.). In other words, both sides can lie or be wrong. I question them all. One side being untrustworthy does not at magically mean the other is trustworthy.
Trustworthiness appears to be a fast disappearing thing. :(
Finally, I know I am in a tiny (and much attacked and maligned) minority, a dangerously tiny one, but I don’t think anyone was necessarily stupid to either get or refuse the vaccine. We are each unique individuals, with our own set of health concerns. We mostly make the best decisions we know how at the time, based on what we can know at the time (such is life) and our particular health issues and circumstances. I don’t judge anyone either way for the decision made. (And it really is not my business anyway.)
You’re lying.
Haha! That the best you got? Have a nice evening ;)
You’re a lying troll.
You seem to be a very unhappy sourpuss. That’s really sad. Why don’t you go you go watch some funny videos of leaping lemurs or something? It would likely do you good.
Or, if you you refuse to do yourself and the rest of of such a favor, why not go back to.your Special Q Thread where such nastiness is applauded?
Take care, now, and have yourself a nice evening! :)
Get stuffed, noob Troll.
Stupid idiot oft-repeated insults. It’s all you got. No well-reasoned arguments or facts. Sad.
Here is a great leaping lemurs video. It’s fun and funny. Maybe you should try it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fHCQ5-1n07M
I know your troll tactics:
Demand substance then lie through your teeth about them once presented.
The trick is to use subtlety in phrasing your sentences in order to socially present yourself as the authority or adjudicator.
But since you’re doing it on behalf of Pfauci, everyone can tell that every word out of your mouth is in bad faith.
Therefore you don’t have either the credibility or authority you attempt to homestead: regardless of supposed credentials.
Just like Pfauci and Birx.
Go Friend Yourself.
This is hilarious! I am laughing so hard. I needed a good laugh tonight, and so I thank you most kindly.
(You do realize this is totally unhinged and devoid of any facts, right? Right?)
OK, Kamala. (sound of addled giggling from the troll.)
(You do realize this is totally unhinged and devoid of any facts, right? Right?)
I've known that about you for a long time, troll.
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