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To: fr_freak

Oops. I got so interested in that question, I forgot to address the last part of your comment.

Yes, every vaccine (and drug) has its risks. We have to look at the risk/benefit ratio. According to this study, it looks like young males would have done better taking their chances with catching Covid over taking the Moderna vaccine:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0

The smallpox vaccines administered to our troops also had their risks (including myocarditis):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4368609/

I agree about the Covid vaccines not being subjected to the long (7-10 years) clinical trials vaccines normally have to pass before becoming available to the general public. It was utterly horrifying to me that anyone would think it was okay to *mandate* a vaccine issued under an EUA.

Without such rigorous trials, there was no way to calculate a proper risk/benefit ratio. Now we know that, for young males, the risk/benefit ratio comes down on the side of taking one’s chances with actually contracting Covid is preferable to taking the Moderna vaccine (see first link). But we did not know that back when. There is a whole lot we know now we did not know back when.

I think the jury is still out on mRNA vaccines. The Covid vaccines are the only ones to ever be tried out on human beings on a large scale. As you can see from my second link, the old smallpox vaccines also had considerable risks, especially for young males. Again, I totally agree about the lengthy trials for previous vaccines vs the rushed Covid vaccines.


84 posted on 02/23/2023 12:42:52 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
Now we know that, for young males, the risk/benefit ratio comes down on the side of taking one’s chances with actually contracting Covid is preferable to taking the Moderna vaccine (see first link). But we did not know that back when. There is a whole lot we know now we did not know back when.

Yes, there was a whole lot we didn't know back then, and don't know now. But there is one really important factor you are leaving out of your equation, and that is that once your "governing authority" has shown itself to be untrustworthy, such as inflating COVID death numbers, disallowing common treatments such as ivermection and hydroxychloroquine, promoting masks when the science has shown they are not effective for this type of virus, and mandating experimental drugs while stifling any true measure of their negative side effects, it has made any of its own proclamations suspect.

In other words, if I am making a truly informed opinion, balancing risk vs reward, as to whether to take an experimental drug I'm being told is a vaccine, the amount of trust I have in the "authority" telling me to take it is a huge part. When they clearly violate that trust, that ALONE would be enough for me to choose not to take whatever they are peddling. Then when you factor in the risk of an unproven treatment, the KNOWN side effects of the last couple of years, and the low risk of COVID infection, I really don't know how ANYONE could have concluded that accepting this shot was a good idea.
87 posted on 02/23/2023 1:28:19 PM PST by fr_freak
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