Posted on 02/11/2023 9:36:57 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
Hoover built the FBI and abused its power, which is why he's left behind a legacy controversial enough to warrant repeated calls for the “J. Edgar Hoover Building” that headquarters the FBI to be renamed. It never has, but the 10-year tenure for FBI directors is arguably a much more important impact of his time. Instead of serving 37 years like Hoover, each FBI director gets 10 unless an extension is proposed by the President and affirmed by the Senate.
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I bring this up after watching the movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio. It was pretty good. It show the 'closet queer' element without the women undergarment episodes and his lust for pornography.. Clint Eastwood directed so I assume it was fair.
At 24 years of age he ran the 'radicals division.' Did well. It looks like they've come back so the question becomes: Do you need a bad guy to deal with the really bad ones? Chemotherapy is bad but needed to fight cancer. Sheepdogs are not popular with the sheep but when the wolves come around they have to be thankful. Rudy was unpopular with the bad guys and he became America's mayor. Where does that put Trump?
You’ll have to excuse where clickbait articles end up. There is a gross picture of apparently a one eyed baby titled ‘beautiful genetic photos’.
No, the MAY serve ten years. But they do not get a “ten year term”. They serve at the pleasure of the President, but may not EXCEED ten years. They are a mere head of a minor bureau inside the DOJ. They are not independent of the Chief Executive sitting in the White House and serve at his pleasure.
A President can fire and replace him with no reason needed.
Just think of how America tears down it’s icons. Could be statues or the names of towns. All the effort it takes could be better spent. Would this country be better without J Edgar? Was McCarthy right in his assault on communists?
Remember Woody Hayes? After a 6 year effort to get him fired he goes out on the field and punches a Clemson player. Another icon Joe Paterno stuck around too long, perhaps emulating Hoover. Pete Rose got what he deserved. It’s a shame. George Floyd was a waste of human skin. He’s revered. The media controls the narrative. It got us into 2 world wars.
And the sheepdog analogy fails here. The FBI is an undisciplined and uncontrolled Pit Bull that constantly turns on the family and actually attacks on the command of some neighbor who wishes you ill.
J Edgar was a perfect product of the Progressive Era. The choice is not between lionizing Floyd George or revering Hoover as an “icon”.
He was a homosexual crossdresser, fruit of the Wilson era progressives. Pretended the mafia didn’t exist, illegally spied on presidents, Congressmen, and anyone with the slightest civil rights bent such as MLK, and then blackmailed them.
The Founders would be horrified at a secret police like the FBI and it’s leader, personally and professionally.
Agreed. Should the State and Defense Department heads be allowed serve for 10 years? The mission of these departments, like the FBI is to serve the entire country-should be bipartisan. You can’t have abrupt swings every 4 years. Perhaps it’s good our allies don’t know what to expect.
I can recommend everyone see the movie. If anything the makeup artists did a great job aging everyone over a 50 year period. It pointed out the pandemonium going on when he took over the Radicals Division. We just may have really needed him then. Likewise we really need Trump today. Does the bloom wear off the rose? It did with J Edgar.
You can’t have abrupt swings every 4 years. Perhaps it’s good our allies don’t know what to expect.
No, and that is precisely what we need. Would you have Trump take office in 2016 and be saddled with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from 2010? I cannot think of a better way to empower the deep state.
And State and DOD can already serve as long as a President wants. Trump could continue with the same person if he pleased.
The ten years is a prohibition against longer, not a time they are allotted despite popular efforts to say James Comey was not “allowed to complete his term” and demanding reasons for his firing...etc.
A President should NEVER be saddled with people from the previous administration. And that concept should reach MUCH deeper into the bureaucracy. It prevents the president from enacting his voter approved agenda, as we saw happen to Trump.
Movie was fantastic as an Eastwood directed product always is.
Unless they get enough blackmail evidence. Which is really what Hoover built the FBI for, controlling the politicians. Especially the ones that could fire him.
“”He was a homosexual crossdresser””
No he wasn’t.
The left hates him and has sold that image to you, what it lacks is fact.
Exactly. President Trump should have fired Wray and installed a responsible FBI head.
Look up photos of he and his live in “friend” on vacation, out on the town etc. And he never married and had no kids. Left everything to the man he shared his home and life and lunch each day with. And he famously had an obsession with agents appearance, not their dress, but their actual physique, facial features etc.
He might not be a homo, but you could sure make do with him till a real homo comes along.
He’s another Mattis.
Fauci outdid Hoover.
This is a nonissue if the FBI is shuttered. Law enforcement is a local responsibility.
Don’t join the left in making historical figures they hate into homosexuals without proof.
While it has been quiet for a while, during the breakout period of the ‘gay power’ movement a lot of historical men were decided by the left to be homosexual, Lincoln included, eccentric behavior does not prove homosexuality.
The new proposed FBI HQ is slated to be larger than the Kremlin. What does that tell us?
More than enough proof with that clown. First of all, he was of the left. He was the perfect fruit (ahem) of the Progressive Era. He was a hard statist who flipped the finger to the Founders with his deep spy and blackmail regimen. He was an enemy of the representative Republic because he short circuited it wherever he could.
He lived with a man as a couple, shared a car to work every day, shared lunch every day, they vacationed together, was fastidious about dress and looks, and not a woman in sight. He left everything to that man he lived with. His vacation photos are flaming.
If he isn’t homo, you could sure make do with him till a real one comes along. It’s for sure he wasn’t a normal American male who wants a wife. Nothing to admire about that clown.
Lincoln had a wife... and kids.
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