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The secret to finding love this year? Date like a man: Be selfish when it comes to sex! Have several suitors on the go! Make him do the legwork!
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 4, 2022 | Michelle Ellman

Posted on 01/04/2023 3:39:22 PM PST by C19fan

Are you starting 2023 feeling disheartened by the dating game, or as if your partner doesn’t give you the respect you deserve?

Have you tried to be kind and caring in relationships, only to end up feeling as if you’re constantly taken advantage of? Does each date wear down your selfesteem a little more, leaving you exhausted and unhappy? I suspect many women will answer ‘yes’ to these questions. If you’re one of them, you need to read my story.

I’m no ‘sexpert’ or vastly confident relationship guru, promising easy answers. But I have found a way to truly enjoy dating without feeling crushed by it — and that is by being just a little more selfish in my approach.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: dating; hoors; me; mgtow; pua; redpill; sloots; slutwalk; tabloiddotcom; women
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To: Codeflier

You lying so low in the weeds
I bet you gonna ambush me
You’d have me down, down, down, down on my knees
Now wouldn’t you, barracuda?

Or maybe in her case killer whale.


61 posted on 01/04/2023 5:00:32 PM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Equine1952
The author, Michelle Elman:


62 posted on 01/04/2023 5:08:41 PM PST by Rio
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To: Rio

Well to paraphrase the late, great Johnnie Cochran....

if the hips are wide, you must deride


63 posted on 01/04/2023 5:09:47 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: C19fan
I'd hit it, but it looks impossible to find it.


64 posted on 01/04/2023 5:12:01 PM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: C19fan
I feel so lucky to be less than three months from Seventy and working on my 49th year of marriage.   I just had the urge to make that comment.   I don't even need to read this.
65 posted on 01/04/2023 5:13:38 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: C19fan

Screw it.


66 posted on 01/04/2023 5:17:51 PM PST by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: C19fan

“as if your partner doesn’t give you the respect you deserve?”

Just wait until you get married, sweetheart! 39 years of “no respect” and counting.


67 posted on 01/04/2023 5:22:21 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beake)
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To: higgmeister

You are indeed lucky. My wife of 30 years died of breast cancer at 59 years old. Eleven years ago. You don’t get over it; you get used to it.


68 posted on 01/04/2023 5:22:23 PM PST by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: Libloather
Back in 2007, Vanity Fair published an interview with Barack Obama’s wife. The article has been scrubbed from their archives but, yeah, It was absolutely scathing what she was allowed to say about that utter pig. We’re talking tightly whities with skidmarks strewn about - dirty socks everywhere- halitosis- an alcohol problem too.

I guess Vanity Fair didn’t give the laughably fake 5 minute senator from Illinois much of a chance against the Maverick - LOL

69 posted on 01/04/2023 5:23:13 PM PST by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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To: C19fan

I came for the comments. I am not disappointed 😂


70 posted on 01/04/2023 5:23:49 PM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: C19fan

Yes, aka ‘How to be a ho’


71 posted on 01/04/2023 5:26:01 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: C19fan

Do the math in the Tinder Bumble world.

More than 60% of men get less than 1% of women swiping right and then less than 5% of these end up in a meaningful conversation and about 1 in 4 of those result in a 1st date. As a result these men are averaging about one 1st date per month or less and generally get turned off on it altogether and either just pursue hookups, work on their careers & forget about women, or just dive into depression. Sure they will have a list of women in their contacts who they text, get occasional replies, follow up Instagram/tiktok/etc, but they are forever friend-zoned.

Around 5% of men get over 40% of the women swiping right. These men are regularly getting scores of matches every week if they aren’t picky. Most of them do become players because its so easy, especially if they are willing to not be picky and due to the high risks of actually committing.

In America we have divorce courts, men paying both sides on attorney fees, division of assets where women usually expect 60%+, division of liabilities where women usually expect men to take 60%+, alimony, child support, day care & medical & dental & college for kids + other expenses, visitation hassles, etc. and if the women doesn’t get her way on everything she’ll lie in court that he’s abusive and they will usually get away with it. My mom is a retired divorce lawyer and tells me this is very common now where wonen regularly commit perjury with impunity and its been getting worse with time. At the same time the gossip circle of women, especially online, strongly encourages women to break free of men and we see women filing over 85% of all divorces as they follow the flock to destroy lives of men and their relationships with their children.

Coincidentally, men in America are commitmentphobes. They simply have a very hard time believing and trusting that their partner is going to be committed and trustworthy. Yes there are plenty of bad men out there. But, the good ones don’t stand much chance unless the woman is very trustworthy.

So what you end up with in the singles scene is around 5%-10% of men and around 60-80% of women having plenty of options for dating. But, the supermajority of the men are players as most of these 60%-80% of women are focused on these 5%-10% of men so you get lots of lying, women not getting much time with their “new boyfriend” (since he’s usually with some other woman), most women feeling used/abandoned, most men being invisible to almost all women with very few exceptions, and the cycle of women saying “why won’t he commit” and them just getting pickier and more sophisticated in trying to avoid the players while all they really want are these players.

Instead of finding real love and riding off into the sunset as the means of new loves -> families forming we are getting lots of people getting into love->family through settling after lots of baggage/despair in this new era of dating. And at the crux of the problem are these 3 simple facts:

(1) Men will sleep down. Players that are 9s and 10s are very willing to sleep down with the 4s and 5s if it will take less work than wining and dining the 8s, 9s, and 10s.
(2) Women will sleep with someone they see themselves being in a long-term relationship. If they can imagine themselves in a relationship then most will put out soon as they want to get the guy.
(3) Women hit a wall where their options start going down.
(4) Women value maturity in men and will date older to get a higher quality man than the ones their own age.

So, what you get is a lot of women willing to sleep with the man who is just a player because the woman wants the relationship/love and the player wants fun. This starts for the women at a young age before they hit the wall. Along the path of heartbreak and collecting baggage & getting pickier they often get jaded, end up settling, and rarely find great luck anymore once they get up to or past the wall. At the same time so many men now check out of the process and their supplies are diminishing rapidly. If they do check back in as more mature/ready men then they are much wiser in their late 30s and up than the most desirable men in their 20s as they know the risks very well on what happens if they commit to marriage/kids.

So, what’s the best way to solve this? I don’t know. We can’t put the genie back in the bottle. The online world is here to stay. No longer must men/women just rely on their small local circles to find potential dates/mates. The whole world has opened up so women can be much pickier in who they give 20 minutes, players can stay players more easily, and the consequences happen.

Question: Suppose a guy is a player and he got caught cheating & now all 3 of his girlfriends A, B, and C expose him at the same time. What happens to him now?

Answer: The night is young. Its just 9:30pm. He gets on Tinder, messages 15-20 of his contacts the same copy/paste message that he’s been super busy with work the past couple weeks, but he’d like to see them, 2-3 of them get back to him within an hour, he hooks up with one of them, and then spends the next day apologizing for going to bed early & missing the replies of the half dozen others who had messaged them back in the meantime & he then arranges that evening and a couple others to hook up with some of these others. By end of day he’ll have girlfriends D, E, and F in place. Girlfriends A, B, and C are history and forgotten.


72 posted on 01/04/2023 5:26:13 PM PST by Degaston (no autocrats please)
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To: Lazamataz

Re: 64 - Wait, uh, does she have two belly buttons?

Is that possible - for a human?

Why two?


73 posted on 01/04/2023 5:26:50 PM PST by Fury
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To: C19fan

74 posted on 01/04/2023 5:27:23 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Degaston

Good post.

I feel bad for the decent men and women out there. The current social structures do not seem to work well for decent men and women. I suppose meeting people through church is a good idea, but that can be a small pool and I can see how that can also go badly for people.

I’m very glad I’m not young and single.


75 posted on 01/04/2023 5:34:34 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (No one is as asleep as the "woke". They define the term "useful idiot".)
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To: Fury

Appendicitis.


76 posted on 01/04/2023 5:38:55 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (#PureBlood)
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To: C19fan
Back in the 1970s, dating looked like this:

A young man would fancy a young woman and spend a few weeks getting up nerve to ask her out on a date.

Almost always dinner and a movie. That was the typical first date back then.

Back then, us boys had to decide everything on the date. Where to go, what to do, what to eat. Once the girls accepted the date, it was up to the boy to pick her up and get her back home at a reasonable time, lest her father get antsy.

The first date I went on was with a girl named Teresa and the movie we saw was "A Star Is Born" featuring Kris Kristofferson and Barbara Streisand. I remember nothing about the movie but I do remember picking her up in my father's Chrysler Newport and the fern bar we went to beforehand. We dined on some kind of Chinese chow mein with the Tiffany lamps all around us. I was underage but I tried getting away with ordering umbrella drinks for us until we were asked for our IDs. Total cringe moment. We ended up getting some frothy non-alcoholic fruit drinks that tasted like an Orange Julius.

On the way home, I decided to park up by the beach and pop in a cassette tape of Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours", which was the hot album of that time. The intention was getting Teresa to slide over to me so that we could neck for a little bit, like in the movies or on the "Happy Days" TV show like I was Fonzie. But she wasn't going for it. She was nice enough but she scrunched up on the passenger side of the car, keeping herself out of reach. We engaged in some non consequential conversation and finally I slid the car into gear and started driving her home.

She thanked me for a nice night, let me give her a quick kiss on the cheek, ran into her house and I never got a date with her again. So that was how my very first date with a girl went. Future dates with other girls would go better but that night, I was about as awkward as Napoleon Dynamite.

Oh well, that was dating in the 1970s. A lot different than today.


77 posted on 01/04/2023 5:47:22 PM PST by SamAdams76 (4,777,271 | Truth Social | 87,821,414 | Twitter | Trump Followers)
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To: Codeflier

“To me, she is not in a position to be “selfish”. Bow wow!”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
WELL, SHE BETTER LEARN QUICK ‘CAUSE THE ONLY LOVIN’ RELATIONSHIP SHE’S EVER GONNA HAVE IS WITH HERSELF! HUNTER BIDEN AFTER A DOZEN BOWLS FULL WOULD NEED ANOTHER DOZEN JUST TO PASS HER BY!


78 posted on 01/04/2023 5:52:31 PM PST by TigerHawk (The Raised Middle Finger in the Clenched Fist of the World!)
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To: C19fan

I had a whole lot of girlfriends/dates/whatever you want to call it as a teenager and basically got it out of my system

Met my future wife and proposed to her within 30 minutes of meeting her

30+ years later we’re still together, it’s not always easy but if you actually love each other you’ll always find a way to sort things out and make it work


79 posted on 01/04/2023 5:53:44 PM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: C19fan

It is my experience that men really enjoy screwing whores, they just don’t want to marry one. Am I just ol’ fashioned or has that changed?


80 posted on 01/04/2023 5:53:46 PM PST by Paco
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