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The Death Of A Friendship
Life Experience | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 01/04/2023 9:56:49 AM PST by Lazamataz

Recently, I lost a friend of over 40 years. It was his choice to terminate our friendship.

We had known eachother since college. We reconnected on Facebook for many years, about 12, and rather suddenly tore into me for a variety of criticisms.

A little background on him: He recently lost his wife of 30+ years then promptly got covid. I offered my condolences and told him he could reach out for anything at all. Then, upon hearing nothing back, I left him be.

I noticed him corresponding more and more with a younger Facebook girl. No worries, not my business.

I wrote a simple little post about Jesus not returning anytime soon and this girl (I'll call her Amy) got into a big tirade with me and other people, expressing she hated religion, didn't believe in Christ, and called people who did a 'disease' and a 'pestilence'. I didn't much like that, unfriended her, and eventually blocked her. In the meantime, my old college friend expressed some of the same sentiments, even tually posting outright blasphemes. Told him I was none too fond of all that.

Well, he responds with all sorts of attacks.

I'm "too long-winded' and he never reads my political essays." Ok, fine.

I'm "occasionally funny but I try too hard." Actually, it's quite the opposite. I post what makes ME laugh. If you laugh, fine, if you don't, that wasn't my intent anyways.

I "think I'm so damned smart." I'm aware I'm slightly above average but there are plenty of people smarter than me.

I "slept with his college girlfriend Joyce." Um, no. Joyce was exceptionaly beautiful and I have always been average looking. Even if I had been inclined to try, she never would have even considered me.

All this was out of left field. No idea what provoked his attacks and his decision to terminate our friendship. I did find out that this Amy chick apparently was his go-to person in dealing with the grief of losing his wife. She apparently considers herself a Wiccan witch. Not healthy, but not my business.

So I am left with a friendship of over 40 years, destroyed. I have experienced some stages of grief over it. But I will (and I have to) accept it.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: friends; friendship; lazamataz; vanity; yougotuslaz
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To: Lazamataz

Just pray for your friend’s salvation, the rest is up to God. It’s likely his Wiccan friend will eventually burn him and he will stumble back to old friends and older truths.


41 posted on 01/04/2023 10:12:48 AM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

I definitely hear you on the latter.


42 posted on 01/04/2023 10:13:05 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Lazamataz

Laz so sorry to hear this

Sometimes people just go nuts. No accounting for it

Hope you can continue to heal

Proud of ya


43 posted on 01/04/2023 10:13:10 AM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Lazamataz

Just forgive him, continue to pray for him to receive Jesus as his savior (he and his new girlfriend are headed to hell if they don’t repent and accept Christ as their savior) and move on with your life.

Everything in our lives has a season. Perhaps this friendship season has passed.


44 posted on 01/04/2023 10:13:11 AM PST by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: Lazamataz
Sorry for your friend.

Older guys dating attractive younger women do dumb things

I'm personally honing my doing dumb things skills in the off chance I get a shot at giving it a go

If it’s any consolation, these situations tend to be transitory and temporary so he will probably be back around in the near future

45 posted on 01/04/2023 10:13:25 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: Robert DeLong
No, you didn't lose friendship, you lost an idiot who threw away his friendship, I say good riddance, and so should you.

Well played. That's wise. Thanks.

46 posted on 01/04/2023 10:13:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz

I consider you a friend. I love reading your stuff


47 posted on 01/04/2023 10:14:37 AM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Lazamataz

One of the hardest truths to face: “friends” are really nothing more than acquaintances.


48 posted on 01/04/2023 10:14:49 AM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m so sorry for your loss, Laz.

I have had this happen to me quite a few times, and, as difficult as it is, it is usually for the best.

I have a friend who has been my “Best Friend” for 55 years. However, in the last few years her political views have become repugnant to me. She knows it too, and never misses an opportunity to snidely cast a negative remark about President Trump, Republicans, Christians, and People who believe in Traditional Gender roles. She seems to be always “testing” me to see how I will react.

She’s an intelligent person, and very educated, yet she seems to like to feign obtuseness to see what I will do.

She was a Director of Human Resouces for a big famous company for many years.

Every conversation with her feels like a hostile JOB INTERVIEW.

Eventually, she or I will go over the line, and that will be the end. Then I know I will be sad, just as you are now. I can rationalize as much as I want, but I KNOW it’s going to hurt.

If it’s any consolation, you have LOTS of friends here on FR. :-)


49 posted on 01/04/2023 10:15:59 AM PST by left that other site (Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.)
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To: Lazamataz

You are a bright light on FR, Laz!


50 posted on 01/04/2023 10:16:10 AM PST by HopeSprings
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To: Lazamataz
Some friendships last, some don’t. Sad thing is, this one lasted 40+ years.

Same as my marriage. Turns out she was never really my friend. Hard to take but I acceptt it with the Lord's help.

Funny thing, since then, I've reconnected with some of my old high school buddies who I haven't seen for about 40 years.

51 posted on 01/04/2023 10:18:28 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, I’ve read you for years. My BFF kicked me out of her house because I reported predatory sex abuse, instead of waiting for her 18 yo daughter to report it.

What I think was behind this was, she wants to sell her house and shack up with her boyfriend. I am Catholic, she is a former Catholic and seeing me made her feel guilty.

All the rest of her associates are retired “educators”.

Her loss. It’s hard making new friends. I’m 62.


52 posted on 01/04/2023 10:18:39 AM PST by BarbM (Men who look at porn are impotent to God.)
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To: Lazamataz
No idea what provoked his attacks ...She apparently considers herself a Wiccan witch.

I think you do.

53 posted on 01/04/2023 10:18:42 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Lazamataz

C’est la vie.
This stuff happens daily to everyone.
Sorry to hear that this has you all buggered up, but just let it pass.

Its kind of nice to hear from you in this regard. If we take the piss out of you for looking soft with this post, we only mean that we all have your back 100%.

God bless you, brother Laz. We’re gonna make you get over this crappy temporary thing.


54 posted on 01/04/2023 10:19:01 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz,

I tend to think he’ll be back....send him Holiday e-amils to keep the channels open. Sounds like his go to gal isn’t exactly the best thing to come his way but if he’s lonely sometimes anyone can temporarily fill that need.

Keep th faith and remember even Jesus lost some of his good friends so he knows what you feel.


55 posted on 01/04/2023 10:19:04 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Lazamataz

You are definitely not long-winded.
I feel like a hermit much of the time.


56 posted on 01/04/2023 10:21:51 AM PST by FryingPan101 (God bless you, Jim.)
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To: Lazamataz
An excellent, thoughtful, and measured piece, Lazamataz. And one I'm sure resonates with many others here who have likewise had long-time friendships wrecked by the "new media."

And let's not fool ourselves: It probably wouldn't have come to this stage without the Internet.

I, too, have had problems - of varying degree - like the one you describe, so maybe I can offer you some helpful advice.

1. Again, I claim that the lack of face-to-face contact and the toxic effect of Facebook (and Co.) triggered and exacerbated your conflict. Nothing like this would have happened "in the olden days" before the Internet. There would, instead, have had to be a concrete issue (lending money, borrowing a vehicle, alcohol-fuelled altercations, sleeping with someone's wife, etc.) for it to have gotten to this point. Which makes it all the more frustrating, since it is essentially a break-up based on nothing real (i.e., upon mere differences of opinion - which are probably not even that dearly held my one or both parties).

In the "olden days," people looked for facial cues and other contextual clues before delivering a "killing blow" or generally "riding roughshod" over a friend. If an inappropriate comment or even insult "hit the mark" to a greater degree than intended, people would recognize the micro-changes in the other person's facial expressions, overall demeanor, etc. and respond with some non-verbal cue to indicate that it "wasn't meant in earnest," etc.

The loss of vocal cues has been especially devastating. Who can tell anymore whether a comment was said in jest, rhetorically, etc.?

2. Because these interactions take place via the Internet, there can often be a considerable time-lag also involved. So the offended party has hours to brood over the (imagined) insult before the other party has even registered that he had (unintentionally) said something hurtful. And since the comments are there in black-and-white, the offended party can go back and read and re-read the remarks and reinforce his sense of "hurt."

3. Now, some concrete advice: Cut your friend some slack due to the death of his wife and his emotional need to curry some favor with / indulge in some "posturing" in front of the Wiccan, send him a final message in which you "take the high road," explain that you certainly had no intention of hurting his feelings and wish to continue the friendship - but then put the relationship "on ice" for a few weeks/months (I'm NOT saying that you should ignore any peace offerings that he might make - just that you should not initiate any contact for a while and hold your communications with him to a polite minimum).

Hopefully, your friend will come back to his senses in a while (probably after the Wiccan dumps him).

Good luck!

Regards,

57 posted on 01/04/2023 10:23:22 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: gundog

I’d like to know what this chick thinks of islam.


58 posted on 01/04/2023 10:23:30 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: Lazamataz

I am profoundly sorry for your loss.


59 posted on 01/04/2023 10:23:50 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: V_TWIN
Someone he knew that was a nonbeliever lost a family member and lashed out at my friend almost immediately saying “where is YOUR God now?”


60 posted on 01/04/2023 10:24:04 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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