Posted on 01/01/2023 4:06:44 PM PST by Hostage
Trump was lied to.
Covid vaccines were supplied in batches. Some were very bad:
https://www.howbadismybatch.com
Trump never supported covid vaccine mandates, always leaving it to individuals to decide what’s best for themselves.
DeSantis was supporting the vaccines until a few weeks ago:
December 2020
DeSantis Signs Executive Order Mandating Vaccine Priority for Seniors ...
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/12/23/desantis-executive-order-vaccine-priority-seniors-65-and-older
April 2021
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Receives Single-Dose COVID-19 Vaccine
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-gov-ron-desantis-receives-single-dose-covid-19-vaccine/2423449
July 2021
‘Vaccines are saving lives’: DeSantis stresses importance of shots ...
https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/vaccines-are-saving-lives-desantis-stresses-importance-of-shots-as-florida-covid-cases-spike-criticizes-mask-mandates
December 2022
DeSantis Flip-Flops From Covid Vaccine Supporter To Most Powerful Critic: Here’s What Happened
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/12/15/desantis-flip-flops-from-covid-vaccine-supporter-to-most-powerful-critic-heres-what-happened/?sh=5e0bc41a7487
Dozens and dozens more reports on the subject. I and others have posted numerous commentaries and evidence on this.
DeSantis is not a bad fellow, but he’s being used. I’m sorry to say he’s not highly-highly intelligent nor brilliant. What he sometimes does do right is listen as in listen to some really smart conservative Floridians, then have their concerns scripted, and reads said scripts from a podium. But those conservatives had to keep needling him to pay attention.
What viewers and the thread’s OP need to understand is the following:
They are going all out to create divisiveness by hyperventilating a clash between Trump and DeSantis.
Their goal is to peel off supporters from President Trump and make MAGA go the way of the TEA PARTY.
Don’t fall for it.
Have Covid shots been proven beneficial yet?
Yes, there were good batches and bad batches. Link is given top of thread content above.
Exactly my views on ANY vaccines, ANY medical procedures. Governments have neither the right or the knowledge to issue health related mandates.
No. Trump refused the boosters. Saw that in news reports repeatedly.
If I’m wrong, post a credible source and I’ll have a look.
Here in Florida, I can tell you the biggest thing our Governor supported was monoclonal treatment so Biden severely limited our supply. Then, DeSantis went to another manufacturer and made a deal with them for our monoclonals. After that, Biden revoked authorization of monoclonals .
Hostage: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-74abcd4e6833835f5df445fe2142e22b
https://youtu.be/E4E1PQqwlag
False, as written. Therefore, False. A lie.
DeSantis did the same. He pushed the shots, but fought against masks.
Research it, you will find it.
See post #26. 2nd link is video.
Personally, for me and my spouse the answer seems to be yes.
Vaccines can NEVER prevent infection. Because of simple reason no vaccine ever builds a virus proof filter in the nose. Only job of vaccine is to create additional anti-bodies for a specific pathogen.
Both me and my wife experienced covid symptoms within hours of each other. Extreme fatigue, fever, body aches, loss of balance, non-stop coughing, unable to get out of bed were our symptoms. Using the home test kit, we were both positive for covid.
Surprisingly in short 42 hours our symptoms had disappeared. Only the cough lingered for a few days, getting better every day. Why such quick recovery without any medication or hospitalization? I am sure our immune systems are not exactly top notch. I am at age 82 and wife is fighting stage-4 cancer for 5 years. I am giving benefit of doubt to the 4 jabs of covid vaccine.
News, both local and live, repeated the opposite.
Find a credible source in 2021 where he fought against the shots .... THE SHOTS!
You may be confusing shots with masks.
He was against masks early on, but not the shots.
DeSantis did not EO mRnA vaccines, shut down his state or create operation Warp Speed. Honestly IDC what DeDantis did at the moment. He is not running.
Ha! I saw what you did there.
But it is still another good reason to keep DeSantis in Florida, where he has been a good governor, and let Trump have another turn at the wheel. I certainly want DeSantis in Tallahassee until 2026.
I learned a long time ago to question everything, especially when the government tells me I "need" something. Anything to do with China should have automatically caused people to think twice. And this is the same government that used a fake dossier, and a fake investigation to try to destroy Trump. Why would anyone trust them? President Trump was only reiterating what the so-called "specialists" were telling him.
My main reason for not trusting the government when it came to taking the shots was that when the jabs were initially offered, they didn't even have an accurate test to determine if you were infected. I still don't trust the tests. I've tested twice for Covid months apart, and had no symptoms whatsoever either time. The last time I was told I was positive, I tested negative on a home test that morning, then tested positive that afternoon after being swabbed at an outside clinic. I'd also tested negative the month before when I went to visit my sister-in-law at a rehab center. NY State requires you to be tested prior to visiting people at those sites.
The other reason I didn't trust the jabs was that every time they came up with a new, and improved jab, a new variant appeared. Nobody will ever get me to believe that the different variants weren't caused by the shots...and they're still doing it.
I never use NBC as a source to back up anything.
There are plenty of reports of Trump saying he wouldn’t be getting the booster.
Look for them,.
DeSantis kept his booster status secret.
Look for it.
Seniors first! DeSantis saved lives. Trump said the virus would be gone in two weeks. Oops!
I trusted them at first, enough to get the two Pfizer doses, but after reading about all the resulting problems — even though all I had was maybe some heart palpitations — I decided I’d rather not risk joining the Stringy Blood Clot Club by getting any boosters, if I can help it.
DeSantis is working. He is smart to ignore the noise from trump. Brilliant strategy in fact.
Trump's problem was that he believed what they were telling him about Covid, and the shots. Anyone working for the government should have been the last people he listened to.
Trump Says He Is Unlikely to Get Covid-19 Vaccine Booster Shot
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-he-is-unlikely-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shot-11630694477
While Trump has expressed opposition to vaccine mandates, he has long taken credit for the vaccines developed on his watch. At the same time, he has refused to urge his supporters to take them, even though Republicans remain far less likely than Democrats to be protected.
For what it’s worth:
Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine, White House confirms
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/19/trump-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19-white-house
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