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ATF Issues New Open Letter ‘Clariflying’ Partially Complete (80%) Striker-Fired Semi-Auto Pistol Regulation
The Truth About Guns ^ | 12-28-2022 | John Boch

Posted on 12/29/2022 1:42:01 PM PST by absalom01

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The enemy is very much on the march.
1 posted on 12/29/2022 1:42:01 PM PST by absalom01
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To: absalom01

Can regs/rules be challenged at SCOTUS? This obviously would fail the Bruen test.


2 posted on 12/29/2022 1:58:55 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

Ping


3 posted on 12/29/2022 1:59:22 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: absalom01

80% is pretty arbitrary as well. Can I buy a 75% gun kit?


4 posted on 12/29/2022 1:59:54 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: absalom01

How about someone bring a case that forces them to define a functional test to determine “readily”? For example, a challenger chooses an employee of their choice from BATFE and if they can’t complete it in 4 hours, it’s not “readily”.


5 posted on 12/29/2022 2:01:53 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: PROCON

Ping.


6 posted on 12/29/2022 2:02:03 PM PST by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: smokingfrog

Till next month, yes.


7 posted on 12/29/2022 2:03:41 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

That’s the crux of the matter.

The BATFE, under Brandon, has been aggressively pushing regulatory changes that make it impossible to determine in advance what is, and is not legal.

The 80% lower controversy looks utterly reasonable compared to their new definition of what constitutes a “suppressor”. No longer is something defined by its physical properties, but by the “intentions” of the person possessing it.

A grotesque mockery of the rule of law, but that’s cold comfort to the individual caught up in an “enforcement action” by the Federal Government.

Dark times indeed.


8 posted on 12/29/2022 2:07:56 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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Where does the "shall not be infringed" come into play here?
9 posted on 12/29/2022 2:18:25 PM PST by BipolarBob (The party never stops until someone calls the cops.)
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To: BipolarBob

That went away for certain in 1933 if not before.
All the folk who tolerate and even defend the NFA-34 set us up for the current regime and eventual loss of all our RKBA.


10 posted on 12/29/2022 2:34:03 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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11 posted on 12/29/2022 2:43:18 PM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: absalom01

Unfortunate, but “Readily” is true in this case.
Having completed some of these kits I know that the frame portion can be done with a hand file and drill if no better equipment is available.
It takes longer to assemble the parts than to mod the frame with decent equipment.
Then more time to get it to work right.
So not too difficult if you know what you are doing, but could be pretty frustrating for a first timer.


12 posted on 12/29/2022 2:47:14 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: Still Thinking

Absolutely it can be challenged. The definition of a receiver is law and the FAT may not change a law with a rule change.


13 posted on 12/29/2022 3:51:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Ex gun maker.
Policy at my house is no 80% kits, no "pistol braces". Frames and lowers get a 4473 before they come home to be assembled. It's not worth the legal entanglement. The SBRs took 6 months to get the tax stamps. The suppressor purchased 3 years ago is still in the FFL's safe. Applied for the tax stamp 8 months ago.
14 posted on 12/29/2022 4:09:08 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: absalom01

No enumerated power for the federal to regulate the possession of arms by the citizens.


15 posted on 12/29/2022 4:21:39 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: absalom01

Saw this earlier today. Unsettling.


16 posted on 12/29/2022 4:21:53 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: absalom01

My favorite LIE from the ATF website “Myths about the AFT.”

“ATF makes the gun laws.

False: Congress makes federal gun laws;”

OH... Since it’s just a “rule” it’s not a law...


17 posted on 12/29/2022 4:33:45 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Still Thinking

Those P80 frames can be finished in under an hour.


18 posted on 12/29/2022 4:35:47 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: absalom01

Ghost Guns are legal, 3D printers are cheap, PLA+ filament is strong.


19 posted on 12/29/2022 4:40:19 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: absalom01

Langley Outdoors Academy 8 minute clip has a different perspective that the ATF has overreached based on another lawsuit. Not that has ever happened /s.

He does look for subscribers and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxvHbf-uNHU


20 posted on 12/29/2022 5:00:34 PM PST by grcuster
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