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Marines told to stop using ‘sir,’ ‘ma’am’ to avoid ‘misgendering’ superiors
Ny Post.com ^ | 12/22/2022 | Lee Brown

Posted on 12/22/2022 1:18:16 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda

Marines told to stop using ‘sir,’ ‘ma’am’ to avoid ‘misgendering’ superiors No more “Yes, sir!”

The US Marines may ban recruits from respectfully addressing senior members as “sir” or “ma’am” to avoid “misgendering” and offending them.

The woke recommendation was made in a new $2 million report commissioned by the Corps from the University of Pittsburgh.

The exhaustive, 738-page study that the Marines first commissioned in 2020 said traditional ways of addressing superiors were holding back gender integration.

“Employing gender-neutral identifiers eliminates the possibility of misgendering drill instructors, which can unintentionally offend or cause discord,” the study said.

“By teaching recruits to use gender-neutral identifiers for their drill instructors, Services underscore the importance of respecting authoritative figures regardless of gender.”

The two-year study by the University of Pittsburgh’s Warrior Human Performance Research Center also said that “the Army, Navy, and Coast Guard effectively de-emphasize gender in an integrated environment.”

“Instead of saying ‘ma’am’ or ‘sir,’ recruits in these Services refer to their drill instructors using their ranks or roles followed by their last names,” it said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“As a former Marine, it was always yes or no drill instructor. Ma’am or Sir was only for addressing an officer,” one person wrote, with others saying only recruits would ever use the terms.


from the article.

What does a real marine say to the matter?


41 posted on 12/22/2022 1:43:17 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“Yes, Drill Sergeant.”


42 posted on 12/22/2022 1:43:45 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
The dismantling of our military by the enemy occupiers of our government continues.

Many times, we wonder at how a military -- who are born of, raised, and made friends by their fellow peoples -- can perpetrate atrocities on their own kind.

What's going on right now within the ranks is exactly how that estrangement is facilitated.

That's how it happens...

43 posted on 12/22/2022 1:43:52 PM PST by Magnatron
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To: Travis McGee

Ping!


44 posted on 12/22/2022 1:44:12 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Instead of a salute, "They" get a Crockadile Dundee check.


45 posted on 12/22/2022 1:45:10 PM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“But the same confusion applies to the Army, except that both the men and the women look like women.”

So your saying you get turned on by anyone in the Army? That’s sick.


46 posted on 12/22/2022 1:45:23 PM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands." )
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To: No name given

This would be miserable to a recruit. I can just imagine me standing at attention reporting to “Aye Aye, Master Chief Petty Officer Ramirez” at Cape May rather than the simple “Sir, Aye Aye, Sir”

And seeing how this decision is made by a bunch of fat trannies at a college, have ANYONE there, bothered to ask DIs or DDIs about how they feel? I rememebr getting screamed at in by half a dozen “it’s “sir, aye aye sir”” or “ma’am, aye aye, ma’am” Are DI’s now going to have to run around correcting recruits for not memorizing the name and rank of the dozens and dozens of DIs and other people they are going to be dealing with at boot camp?

How pathetic.


47 posted on 12/22/2022 1:46:04 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The Navy has always used rank, including in boot camp. Calling an enlisted leader “Sir” would bring a quick rebuke such as “Sir?! I work for a living you sh!tbird!”, or “Don’t call me sir you numbnuts! I ain’t your %@#& %!*+# daddy!”


48 posted on 12/22/2022 1:46:26 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
It is hard enough remembering someones name. These lunatics want us to remember "preferred pronouns" as well.

I wonder if the Russian and Chinese soldiers have the preferred pronouns on their uniform. That is reason enough for a good war.

49 posted on 12/22/2022 1:46:34 PM PST by Moorings
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To: fightin kentuckian

LOL. I actually get called “sir” a lot. I’m not that masculine-appearing so it must be my commanding, confident demeanor. :D


50 posted on 12/22/2022 1:47:05 PM PST by Scarlett156 (If you dislike the Proud Boys, you are an anti-Semite. )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

We want killers, not gender benders. Where’s your war face?


51 posted on 12/22/2022 1:48:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: MPJackal
So your saying you get turned on by anyone in the Army? That’s sick.

Nah - they're all ugly regardless of gender anyway.

52 posted on 12/22/2022 1:50:14 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“Misgendering” is a made-up problem. It isn’t a problem. Trying to make it a problem just makes people look silly.


53 posted on 12/22/2022 1:50:16 PM PST by marron
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I remember being scolded in the army for addressing a sergeant as “Sergeant” + name. That was a privilege reserved for officers. The correct term for enlisted men was “Sarge” sans name.


54 posted on 12/22/2022 1:50:20 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

In my military family we all grew up calling women “Ma’am”, and all men “Sir”. (What we called our peers was another thing)

That’s it. It is respectful.

And I am not going to stop doing it to accommodate trendy crap. And definitely not for any kind of “preferred pronoun”. Period. Full Stop.

Not doing it.


55 posted on 12/22/2022 1:50:22 PM PST by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yep. And many of the replacements were queers.


56 posted on 12/22/2022 1:50:26 PM PST by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: TalBlack

This country is in big trouble. The adults at some point have to take over. This is insane.
........
Agree.


57 posted on 12/22/2022 1:52:26 PM PST by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Marines like ugly. Seen too many on cattle calls or “Hogging” on a Friday or Saturday night.


58 posted on 12/22/2022 1:57:21 PM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands." )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The loonies are in charge.


59 posted on 12/22/2022 2:00:05 PM PST by StrictConstructionist
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

How about:
Yes Penis
No penis
Yes vagina
No Vagina

No confusion there.


60 posted on 12/22/2022 2:01:26 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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