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Baby dies of large blood clot after doctor ignores parents' request for unvaxxed transfusion
Lifesitenews.com ^ | 12/16/2022 | EmiliaMangiaracina

Posted on 12/16/2022 7:20:31 PM PST by NetAddicted

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To: Secret Agent Man

“They knew this would eff up the blood supply and that they would damage the unvaxxed this way.”

I think that’s true, and probably why everyone without exception wasn’t mandated the shot. They knew that eventually it would get everyone, one way or another.


101 posted on 12/17/2022 5:27:29 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: combat_boots

This WUHAN HOAX is insidious.


102 posted on 12/17/2022 5:42:48 AM PST by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: Big Red Badger

Yup

And all those people, dying alone and behind glass, with prohibited funerals.

Monstrous.

People bought the lie, which is now part of bureaucratic protocol. This has broken the social contract.


103 posted on 12/17/2022 5:47:03 AM PST by combat_boots ( )
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To: NetAddicted

I no longer trust doctors or their greedy institutions. Revoke your advance directives!


104 posted on 12/17/2022 5:57:26 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: bagster

Takes a straw man to know one sir. The question I asked is not the one you want to answer because you cannot. You pivot.

And as a matter of law and ethics it is absolutely on the parents. They are the guardian of the child. They consented fo a high risk operation knowing blood transfusion was likely. Now they are boo hooing saying it’s not their fault.

They could have waited or sought different treatments. And then they come with this nonsense that they aren’t even sure their child received blood from vaccinated donors. It’s laughable.

Your defense of it though valiant in terms of nor giving an inch is preposterous. You can’t answer a question. Ecuador it’s obvious and will weaken your entire theme. So you throw mud.

It’s obvious. And somewhat entertaining.


105 posted on 12/17/2022 6:02:36 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: gas_dr

Thanks for your post to counter the FRoctors on this thread.


106 posted on 12/17/2022 6:02:54 AM PST by Fury
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To: gas_dr
Takes a straw man to know one sir. The question I asked is not the one you want to answer because you cannot. You pivot.

Ya can't pivot if you maintain the original point. Which is the doc didn't use unvaccinated blood like the parents requested. And somehow you want to blame it on the parents for trusting the doctor. As if the doc didn't discuss the surgery with the parents from the get. They f'd up. They trusted him.

And as far as your strawman argument goes, there is sufficient evidence from the bazillions of vaccines poked, that there is a connection between the vax and blood clots, amongst other things.

Go read a medical journal. Its time you updated your data base.


107 posted on 12/17/2022 6:09:06 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr

So now an actual case becomes “tenous” and “cannot be confirmed.”

Looking forward to the Nuremberg 2 trials.

Troll.


108 posted on 12/17/2022 6:09:35 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: stars & stripes forever

It is at best weakly useful. Certainly does nothing for advanced disease when we had delta. For every study cherry picked in that graph there are studies that show it does nothing.

When COVID was dangerous (a genetic shift) ivermectin did not save lives. The only and proven treatment was monoclonal prior to 10 days.

As for today corona virus is back to a cold. There is no reason to treat it at all. Most positive tests are incidental or people who really really really want to know

We need to stop broad treating and call it a day. If you have risk and you want updated vaccination get it. If you don’t have risk skip it. As I have always said this is a choice

As for ivermectin there is no reason to treat COVID omicron with anything. It runs its course and is over. But ivermectin did not work to stop delta progression to death.


109 posted on 12/17/2022 6:09:52 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: Fury
Thanks for your post to counter the FRoctors on this thread.

So gay.


110 posted on 12/17/2022 6:11:15 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: grey_whiskers

Dude read the article. There are holes gapingly wide in it. Not a toll at all. I just can read and apply a little logic. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll is rather diminutive of the word and perhaps suggests you are trolling for the other side

We can disagree honestly. Sorry I don’t drink the look aid.


111 posted on 12/17/2022 6:12:06 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: gas_dr
Sorry I don’t drink the look aid.

But you drink the kook aid.

#IvermectinMiracleDrug


112 posted on 12/17/2022 6:15:12 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Fury

The facts are these. The parents consented to surgery. The child has acute anemia as he or she needed transfusion. The parents could have refused but I suppose that means child would have died. Parents could have refused surgical consent pending blood available. The parents of fault must be assigned are at fault here. And now using this to drive a political agenda. It’s hard for me to determine if the parents are the root of this or if the antivaxxers are abusing grieving parents and using them

Whichever one it is, it is disgusting.


113 posted on 12/17/2022 6:22:55 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: NetAddicted

LAWSUIT!


114 posted on 12/17/2022 6:24:41 AM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: gas_dr

I read the whole article.

What a lame response on your part.

The key points are the size of the clot and that it was impervious to blood thinners.

Oh, and the cover-up. They suddenly couldn’t find any record of the baby being at the hospital, and the hospital flunky saying on the phone “this conversation is over.”

All so very, very “safe and effective” aren’t they? (For the leftist, power-drunk and greedy doctors and admins, right? And after all, in the end, they’re the only ones who count, according to you $hot $hill$.)

Like I said, looking forward to the Nuremberg trials.

Hint: Nothing in this world will EVER convince those parents.

Hint 2: Sententiously claiming “strict scientific pwoof!”™ and “Because Muh Science!”™ in the face of those parents, only serves to self-identify you as at best a pawn or collaborator, and at worst a co-conspirator.


115 posted on 12/17/2022 6:24:46 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: LukeL
I have also discovered that many doctors fall victim to the “appeal to the expert” fallacy. Basically they believe what any expert has told them and refuse to do any research for themselves.

Medicine has been doing that for ages, going back to Galen.

And when challenged, they turn on the "Don't You Know I Am A Doctor?!"™ mode. Because Science!™ of course.

116 posted on 12/17/2022 6:26:58 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: bagster

Unvaccinated blood wasn’t available. Child has high risk surgery for blood transfusion. Parents consented to surgery. They didn’t have to until blood was bandied and available consistent with their beliefs. Child developed what appears to be acute postop anemia which is common in cardiac and thoracic surgery. Waiting would have likely been life threatening. Child got transfusion (and by the way that clot was colonized with MRSA suggesting it was around a long time before the transfusion or caused by infection.

Parents could have held surgery pending banked blood or refused transfusion once they consented to the surgery. The were fully informed. They alone has the ability to consent. Sorry. If there is blame. It’s on them. Sorry it’s uncomfortable for you.


117 posted on 12/17/2022 6:28:01 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: Fury

And up pops Mr. Hand Puppet on schedule.


118 posted on 12/17/2022 6:32:15 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: stars & stripes forever; gas_dr
Re: 98 - That web-site has credibility issues on how they represent study results.

An example, I picked one study at "random" (haha):

Mirahmadizadeh et al. Efficacy of single‐dose and double‐dose ivermectin early treatment in preventing progression to hospitalization in mild COVID ‐19: A multi‐arm, parallel‐group randomized, double‐blind, placebo‐controlled trial

Mirahmadizadeh et al., Respirology, doi:10.1111/resp.14318

and at c19ivm.org at https://c19ivm.org/mirahmadizadeh.html

Here what the study authors wrote:

"RCT with 131 24mg ivermectin, 130 12mg ivermectin, and 130 placebo patients, showing no significant differences in outcomes. Lower ventilation and hospitalization was seen with treatment, in a dose-dependent manner, but not reaching statistical significance with the small number of events."

Yet the intellectual titans at c19ivm.org list this study as one with a POSITIVE outcome! How? Who the hell knows. But the study has lots of green in the charts that c19ivm.org uses. And that green is misleading.

The study authors write one thing and c19ivm.org writes another.

Read what c19ivm.org claims studies show warily.

119 posted on 12/17/2022 6:34:00 AM PST by Fury
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To: gas_dr

Re: 113 - thanks.

And I see lots of grayed out space in this thread meaning the usual suspects are posting whatever it is they post. If it’s the winning Powerball numbers - I will feel bad. Otherwise, I don’t miss the ignorance, threats, etc thanks to a Firefox extension.


120 posted on 12/17/2022 6:38:34 AM PST by Fury
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