Posted on 12/13/2022 6:36:33 AM PST by Cathi
Interesting live stream round table analyst discussion of where the Ukraine war is now and how it is likely to end.
These analysts agree that there is not likely to be "big arrow" moves, but rather grinding of Ukraine with slow Russian territorial gains and continued huge Ukrainian casualties. They see no possibility of a negotiated settlement and are particularly critical of Angela Merkle's recent disclosure that the Minsk agreements were always a sham in order to buy time for Ukraine to prepare for war. They believe Russia has come to the conclusion that the West can never be trusted and Russia has now turned permanently toward the East.
Ukraine is out of manpower, out of weapons, out of fuel and electricity, short of water and food with a collapsed currency and economy.
Gonzalo Lira II is the geopolitical YouTube channel of Gonzalo Lira, a Chilean American novelist and film director who claims to be living in Ukraine. Before the conflict, Lira was a sort of dating ‘coach’ pushing anti-feminist and misogynistic content on his channel Coach Red Pill, which is currently on hold. Gonzalo Lira is fully dedicated to his new geopolitical channel, exclusively offering misleading pro-Russian content about the war.
But he is still correct…..Ukraine is out of manpower, out of weapons, out of fuel and electricity, short of water and food with a collapsed currency and economy….and I will add the largest western Welfare nation in history.
Ukraine 1991-2023 RIP
First message out the gate…shoot the messenger
Did you mention his wife is Ukrainian? Which is why he “ claims” to live in Kharkiv?
What about Brian? Gonna discard his analysis too?
Afraid they are wrong? Or right?
How do you think the war will end?
When Moscow surrenders?
The opposite is true comrade,
Russia is out of manpower and out of weapons.
Losing Kherson is just the beginning.
Ukraine is making slow territorial gains. Losing thousands of men per meter towards Bakhmut is a pyric victory.
Russia is becoming a Chinese/Iranian welfare queen.
Right, the West is out of weapons. Western innovation cannot possibly find ways to produce more or alternatives. Okay
The Pentagon is considering a Boeing proposal to supply Ukraine with cheap, small precision bombs fitted onto abundantly available rockets, allowing Kyiv to strike far behind Russian lines as the West struggles to meet demand for more arms.
U.S. and allied military inventories are shrinking, and Ukraine faces an increasing need for more sophisticated weapons as the war drags on. Boeing's proposed system, dubbed Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB), is one of about a half-dozen plans for getting new munitions into production for Ukraine and America's Eastern European allies, industry sources said.
Although the United States has rebuffed requests for the 185-mile (297km) range ATACMS missile, the GLSDB's 94-mile (150km) range would allow Ukraine to hit valuable military targets that have been out of reach and help it continue pressing its counterattacks by disrupting Russian rear areas.
GLSDB could be delivered as early as spring 2023, according to a document reviewed by Reuters and three people familiar with the plan. It combines the GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) with the M26 rocket motor, both of which are common in U.S. inventories.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/100-mile-strike-weapon-weighed-ukraine-arms-makers-wrestle-with-demand-sources-2022-11-28/
And Putin has already died at least 4x!
And Putin has been assassinated at least 4x
And Putin has lost 438% of their generals!
https://t.me/resident_ua (Ukrainian Telegram Channel)
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source in the OP said that Zaluzhny made a big report at headquarters on the situation in Bakhmut and asked Zelensky to withdraw troops from the city, following the example of Severodonetsk/Lysichansk. In the summer, this made it possible to maintain the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for the future counter-offensive in the Kharkiv / Kherson direction, and now the Bakhmutovskaya meat grinder grinds the best units of the Ukrainian army and leads to a drop in morale among the soldiers.
https://t.me/resident_ua/15350
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source in the OP said that Zaluzhny reported to Zelensky that the front would be static in the next month, the hostilities were moving into a protracted phase, due to the strengthening of defensive lines by the Russian army. Armed Forces hold back the enemy...
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Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President requires Zaluzny to keep Bakhmut at any cost in order to prevent the surrender of the city.
On Bankovaya, they try to delay as much as possible the moment when they have to retreat, since the city has become a kind of “symbol”, and its loss alone can informationally cancel out successes in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions, especially in the West, where the demand for peace negotiations is growing.
3 steps backwards and run like hell, but no place for you to hide, so there is that.
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Oh my, terrible terrible, can't get more evil than that.
Bakmut is shaping up to another Ukie Marioupol. Remember Marioupol?
I can’t grasp how the war cheerleaders some how see Ukraine’s de- energizing, de- population, crippled manufacturing, exports, currency, infrastructure and economy as “ winning”.
Carry on war cheerleaders, you are victims of a corrupted western media- didn’t you folks remember Trumps warning about the fake western media?
Keep drinking the western media whiskey, you are headed for one hell of a hang over.
Hey Delta. In this thread you were absolutely certain that Russia would not give up Kherson:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4090948/posts
You claimed:
“Vlad will never give up an inch of the ethnic Russian territories.”
Why do you think you got that one wrong? And do you think that means you might be badly informed on the rest of the war?
⚡️ (https://t.me/wargonzo/9769)🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Urgent - in #Opytnoye near #Bakhmut, the Purge of AFU Militants is almost complete⚡️
The @wargonzo project’s sources directly on the #Bakhmut - #Soldar line report that during the clarification of the operational and tactical situation today in the village of #Opytnoye, which is actually a suburb of #Bakhmut, the zone of control of Russian troops is more than 90%.
The Wagner PMC is operating in the forward positions there. The remnants of the AFU neo-Nazis are blocked in several residential buildings on Shkolnaya Street and will soon be destroyed. Russian artillery is actively working on them. The remaining buildings are being cleared.
First and foremost, Russian troops are working to cut off the Ukrainian fighters’ supply lines to the ammo.
Also, according to @wargonzo, two blocks in the private sector along Maksimenko Street have been taken under Russian Army control.
South of the private sector there are advances along Pervomaysky Lane all the way up to Dobrolubova Street. The defence line of the 71st Mountain Brigade of the AFU has been breached there.
Reports are coming in about the successful “calibration” of a military facility at the port of Ochakov, the place from which Ukrainian formations provide everything they need to their forces on Pervomaysky Island.
“Ukraine is out of manpower, out of weapons, out of fuel and electricity, short of water and food”
B.S,
Not out of manpower, not out of weapons, and will make do with shortages of fuel, electricity, food and water, because unlike the poor Russian conscripts it is an existential battle for the people of Ukraine.
The Ukrainians certainly are not out of weapons or manpower. The Poles just received about 250 tanks and self-propelled artillery from SK. The armor they replace will be going to Ukraine, as well as Slovakian Mig29's. France just supplied more howitzers and ammunition as is the United States.
The Russians are the attackers in Bakhmut and have to cover territory where every inch is zeroed in by Ukrainian artillery. The Ukrainians will give ground if they have to, but aren't using anything near the 30K troops to hold it that I've seen claimed. Every front line report I've seen is surprised by how few Ukrainian forces seem to be holding Bakhmut.
The Ukrainians are simply waiting for the mud to freeze before launching another offensive.
Or how about this thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4049235
There you claimed:
“Vlad is mopping up the Eastern Seperatists and southern provinces, undeniably. When they are secured ( very soon) , he rolls on Kiev”
Have you ever been right about anything this entire war?
Or how about this thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4049235
There you claimed:
“Vlad is mopping up the Eastern Seperatists and southern provinces, undeniably. When they are secured ( very soon) , he rolls on Kiev”
Have you ever been right about anything this entire war?
“grinding of Ukraine with slow Russian territorial gains...”
So slow they’re moving backwards :)
“Ukraine is out of manpower, out of weapons, out of fuel and electricity, short of water and food with a collapsed currency and economy…”
And Russia still can’t beat them. How pathetic is that?
“How do you think the war will end?
When Moscow surrenders?”
Probably when Putin’s successor declares unilateral “victory”, then orders a quick withdrawal leaving behind more equipment than Biden left in Afghanistan.
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