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To: Cathi

Gonzalo Lira II is the geopolitical YouTube channel of Gonzalo Lira, a Chilean American novelist and film director who claims to be living in Ukraine. Before the conflict, Lira was a sort of dating ‘coach’ pushing anti-feminist and misogynistic content on his channel Coach Red Pill, which is currently on hold. Gonzalo Lira is fully dedicated to his new geopolitical channel, exclusively offering misleading pro-Russian content about the war.


2 posted on 12/13/2022 6:42:32 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

But he is still correct…..Ukraine is out of manpower, out of weapons, out of fuel and electricity, short of water and food with a collapsed currency and economy….and I will add the largest western Welfare nation in history.

Ukraine 1991-2023 RIP


3 posted on 12/13/2022 6:45:52 AM PST by delta7
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To: tlozo

First message out the gate…shoot the messenger
Did you mention his wife is Ukrainian? Which is why he “ claims” to live in Kharkiv?

What about Brian? Gonna discard his analysis too?

Afraid they are wrong? Or right?
How do you think the war will end?
When Moscow surrenders?


4 posted on 12/13/2022 6:50:48 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: tlozo
Lira was a sort of dating ‘coach’ pushing anti-feminist and misogynistic

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Oh my, terrible terrible, can't get more evil than that.

10 posted on 12/13/2022 7:13:28 AM PST by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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To: tlozo

Oh, he lives in Ukraine, but you made sure to try and smear him . You sound like a freaking Bidenist.


25 posted on 12/13/2022 8:33:13 AM PST by dforest
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To: tlozo; Cathi; silverleaf; aMorePerfectUnion; norsky; Forward the Light Brigade; Kazan; dforest; ...

I agree that Lira has a dodgy background (”The Duran” duo, too). I would never take anything he said at face value (same goes for The Duran duo).

That said, we have behaved as tricksters when it comes to wars that prop up NATO. (Lisbon in 1992, Rambouillet in 1999 and Minsk in 2014):

We sabotaged the Lisbon Agreement in 1992 (when there was talk about NATO, our fave lever of power, having lost its raison d’être and we were all into the supposed “end of history” and proving we were The Indispensable Nation):

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“On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats. On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia. What was said and by whom remains unclear. Warren Zimmermann denied that he told Izetbegović that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. What is indisputable is that on the same day Izetbegović withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_plans_proposed_before_and_during_the_Bosnian_War#Carrington%E2%80%93Cutileiro_plan

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Under Clinton’s Dayton Accords of 1995, the Bosnian Muslims got slightly *less* territory than under Lisbon. There had been a few other peace plans floated between Lisbon and Dayton, but the US always objected the Bosnian Muslims did not get enough map. I’ll never forget the look on Izetbegovic’s face at Dayton. All that death and destruction, only to end up with less.

In 1999 we sabotaged the Rambouillet Agreement (Kosovo) when the odious Madcow Albright whipped out Annex B when the FR Yugoslavia delegation was about to sign off on it:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/23607665

No sovereign nation could possibly agree to such a thing. As you can read, Annex B called for NATO military occupation of the entire FRY (which consisted of Serbia and Montenegro at the time) not just Serbia’s province of Kosovo. Bombs away!

For some reason, we no longer cared about Annex B after bombing the daylights out of Serbia for 78 days, as the Kumanovo Agreement was very much the same as Rambouillet, but minus that pesky Annex B. (The 1999 bombing of Serbia — which was in violation of both the NATO Charter and the UN Charter — was the last straw for the Russians and was a major factor in bringing Putin to power.)

We also laughed at UN Resolution 1244 and recognized Kosovo’s independence (declared in violation of 1244). Neither we nor the NATO troops still babysitting Kosovo to this day have ever tried to implement 1244, let alone enforce it. It was just another sham.

Then we played the same game with the Minsk agreement. It was already obvious, but lest anyone doubt, Merkel just admitted it. I wonder how the French feel about her admission?

We also lied back in 1990 when we assured Gorby that we would not expand NATO. It’s no wonder Putin finds us untrustworthy.


29 posted on 12/13/2022 9:04:28 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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