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Are Men Capable of Admiring Women?
The Grio ^ | Nov 30, 2022 | Touré

Posted on 12/02/2022 1:43:01 PM PST by nickcarraway

I saw a woman on TikTok say she can stump almost any man with one specific question. The question was “Name three women who you are not related to who you admire and want to be more like.” I immediately saw her point.

Misogyny generally blinds most men from seeing women as people they want to admire and, critically, to be like. So much of masculinity is about making sure we are not like women. We may love women, but we are taught to aspire to be like successful men. The qualities that most men respect in women are not the qualities that men are told to aspire to. Misogyny has also made it harder for women to be successful in many of the fields that many men look to for role models — sports, politics and business. There are all sorts of barriers that prevent women from succeeding at the same rate in these fields.

When I was a teenager, I mostly looked to athletics to find people to admire. We’re in a world where women’s sports are given far less attention and respect than men’s sports, but I grew up obsessed with tennis, perhaps the only major sport that has a professional women’s side that’s decades-old and robust. In pro tennis, every few months the men and women come together at the Grand Slam tournaments — Wimbledon, the French Open, the U.S. Open, the Australian Open — and play simultaneously. No other sport has men and women players as deeply engaged as tennis. And yet, in my young mind, my tennis idols were almost exclusively men. When I think back to the pictures I had on my wall as a kid, there were lots of photos of John McEnroe, Boris Becker, Arthur Ashe, Jimmy Connors, and Stefan Edberg, and maybe one photo of Martina Navratilova. Even in the culture of a sport where women were treated as equals, I still didn’t see many women I could look up to.

I have a problem with ‘Wakanda Forever’ Also Read: I have a problem with ‘Wakanda Forever’ Nowadays, there are women I admire, for sure. I have a list that I’ll get to, but as a way of making the question harder for myself, of trying to force myself to tell the truth, I asked myself how many autobiographies or biographies of women have you read? Damn. I read Audre Lorde’s “Zami,” which was searing and powerful, and of course, Maya Angelou’s “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings,” but “Zami” was part of me teaching myself how to write a memoir and “Caged Bird” was assigned by a high school teacher.

I’ve also read “Seeing Serena,” a biography of Serena Williams by Gerald Marzorati, “Assata,” which is the autobiography of Black Panther Assata Shakur, and “A Taste of Power,” which is Elaine Brown’s memoir of her time in the Black Panther Party. I also loved Senator Elizabeth Warren’s autobiography “A Fighting Chance.” I haven’t yet read Michelle Obama’s “Becoming,” but I did attend an event where she discussed the book in front of a large crowd. I’ve gotten through several books about the lives of women, but the number of books I’ve read about the lives of men is much larger. That’s a bias in myself that I’m just now noticing.

I do genuinely admire and hope to be more like Serena Williams — I admire her toughness, determination, and strength. She is one of my favorite tennis players ever. I immensely respect Michelle Obama’s grace under pressure and her sense of decorum and morality — her idea that “when they go low, we go high” is seared into my mind. I think Oprah is the greatest interviewer alive and an extraordinarily talented communicator and broadcaster. It would be extraordinary to achieve even a fraction of her level of onscreen charisma. I think Toni Morrison is possibly the greatest writer of the previous century. I have studied her sentences closely to understand how they work. All of these women are role models who I aspire to be more like.

The legendary Debbie Allen is my guest on this week’s ‘Masters of the Game’ Also Read: The legendary Debbie Allen is my guest on this week’s ‘Masters of the Game’ Men have much to learn from women yet, in many cases, we’re letting misogyny and toxic masculinity block our chances to do that. There are so many things we need to take from women — we most definitely need to learn from the qualities that many women hold dear. We need to be more emotionally intelligent. We need to be better at expressing our feelings and articulating them. We can do better at nurturing others and being overt about our love. When I hear people complaining about the feminization of men, I pull my hair out because the comment is ridiculous, and besides, the whole conversation is backwards. The complainers are bemoaning that men are not like the way men used to be, but this is ultimately a defense of toxic masculinity. We should allow the feminization of men if it means men borrowing key traits from women that will help us be better people.


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To: BlackAdderess

Women are beautiful scenery, if scenery.


61 posted on 12/02/2022 2:35:21 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: nickcarraway

The equating of “admiration” with “be like” is odd. I admire Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I always admired the hell out of Margaret Thatcher. I also admire Kate Bush even though I don’t want to “be like” any of them.


62 posted on 12/02/2022 2:39:59 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Kenny500c

“Could not name 3 men I admire either.”
I can only name one man.
Jesus.

I dearly love women,
I’m married, 45 plus years, I have a daughter
Look up definition of admire.
I admire most all women.
As long as they aren’t Democrats.


63 posted on 12/02/2022 2:42:58 PM PST by rellic
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To: nickcarraway

In before the sexist misogyny…nope, more than 50 posts, that’s Impossible.


64 posted on 12/02/2022 2:43:28 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV)
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To: nickcarraway

Mother Theresa
Margaret Thatcher
Ashli Babbitt


65 posted on 12/02/2022 2:44:31 PM PST by Dragonspirit (CNN is the enemy. Ashli Babbitt is the hero.)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh boy, unfortunately this is from a whiny liberal.

I actually agree this kind of attitude exists, but it includes females. Also ask yourself how it’s been ok for females to “be like” males, but not the reverse (LGBTQ nonsense notwithstanding). Going to men’s dress, boy’s toys, etc, all ok. Totally unacceptable for males to do the opposite.

Back to the liberalism, not one mention of Maggie Thatcher.


66 posted on 12/02/2022 2:47:10 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV)
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To: nickcarraway

This brainwashed tickertocker completely misses the point (as does the rest of our woke society):

Decency, virtue and greatness aren’t defined by our chromosomes, they’re a product of our character.


67 posted on 12/02/2022 2:47:27 PM PST by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: nickcarraway

When I was a kid I chose her to do a report on. Dad thought she was the exception to the rule of the unsatisfactory mediocrity of women (yes, he did spell it out, and yes he loved us anyway, and we all love him back. He was afraid for his female family members for this reason and went out of his way to teach us all useful skills!). Mom otoh thought she failed on the point of ending up with radiation poisoning.


68 posted on 12/02/2022 2:52:25 PM PST by BlackAdderess (Representatives are supposed to represent their constituents, that is their job. )
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To: BlackAdderess

Yes, I believe both she and her daughter did die of radiation posioning.


69 posted on 12/02/2022 2:53:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

No, I didn’t. Second Tuesday of October. :) But the list has to stop sometime! Oh, something of interest... my TRS-80 had a “compiler” for Ada which was my first exposure to her and Babbage.


70 posted on 12/02/2022 2:54:33 PM PST by Retrofitted
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To: nickcarraway

I’ll never forget this once scene from Star Trek where Nurse Chapel, Dr. McCoy, Mr. Spock and Captain Kirk are having a serious scientific discussion. Nurse Chapel leaves the room and all the men pause to admire her walking out the door, even the supposedly super-logical Spock! Just standard procedure in the ‘60s.


71 posted on 12/02/2022 2:55:59 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: BlackAdderess

I believe studies show female intelligence is more clumped in the middle, while more men are at the extremes: both very intelligent and very unintelligent. Of course, there are exceptions.


72 posted on 12/02/2022 2:56:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I will bet the author despisesevery female republican politician with volume 11 disgust


73 posted on 12/02/2022 2:56:07 PM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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I will bet the author despisesevery female republican politician with volume 11 disgust


74 posted on 12/02/2022 2:56:13 PM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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I will bet the author despisesevery female republican politician with volume 11 disgust


75 posted on 12/02/2022 2:56:24 PM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: nickcarraway

This is insistence on admiring women according to the qualities of feminism. There are many ways and traits and yes, physical qualities that can be used to exclaim feminine virtues, that are as wide as the sky itself.


76 posted on 12/02/2022 2:58:11 PM PST by Luke21
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To: ConservativeMind

Well, until they hit 40 or so. Many is the bitter former cheerleader thrown over for a younger woman that I have worked with.

If you listen to Hollywood you end up in an aging arms race, if you listen to God you know the value of being a help mate:)


77 posted on 12/02/2022 2:58:45 PM PST by BlackAdderess (Representatives are supposed to represent their constituents, that is their job. )
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To: GingisK

Speaking of computing, Ada Lovelace was pretty cool, too.


78 posted on 12/02/2022 2:59:55 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: GingisK

Speaking of computing, Ada Lovelace was pretty cool, too. And that naval lady who created COBOL.


79 posted on 12/02/2022 3:03:48 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: nickcarraway

Easy. Lia Thomas, Rachel Levine, Caitlyn Jenner


80 posted on 12/02/2022 3:12:35 PM PST by stevem
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