Posted on 11/18/2022 5:49:54 AM PST by lowbridge
It seems like the apple doesn’t really fall too far from the tree. While the GMC Hummer EV is a zero-emissions vehicle designed to be a strong statement of General Motors’ dedication to the electric vehicle revolution, some of the pickup truck’s behavior definitely seems to be very similar to its gas-guzzling combustion-powered predecessors.
The Hummer EV is equipped with a mammoth battery pack that has roughly 210 kWh of capacity. That’s about the size of a Model S Plaid and Model X Plaid’s battery pack combined. With this in mind, it is no surprise that charging such a massive battery would take quite a bit of power. This was something that became evident during a charging session at an Electrify America station.
YouTube host Kyle Conner of the Out of Spec Reviews channel recently tested how much it would cost to charge a Hummer EV Edition 1 from 0-100% at an Electrify America station without any incentives or memberships. The results were quite shocking, as the monster all-electric pickup truck’s charging session ended up costing $96.89 before taxes and fees. It also took 152 minutes, or about two and a half hours, to charge the hulking EV from zero to full.
It should be noted that the YouTube host’s demonstration would probably not be true for many drivers of the Hummer EV. For one, Conner charged the vehicle from 0-100%, which resulted in an extended charging time. Typical EV drivers charge their vehicles only until 80% or so, which makes sessions much shorter and more affordable. Incentives or memberships tied to Electrify America would also lower the price of charging the Hummer EV.
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Another variable you forgot to take in to account is towing capacity. Our Chevy 2500 Duramax Desiel gets 17 Mpg and can tow 25K pounds. That weight drops the range down to about 390 miles (actually more, but we aren't supposed to talk about that). I wonder what the stats are on EV pickups towing the same load?
I don’t know where the joker who did this is at, but I just looked my state’s Public Service Commission site, and find I am paying $0.132 / kWh. Let’s say he’s in California and it’s around twice that at a nice even $0.25 / kWh.
They saw battery has 210 kWh of capacity. I’m seeing AC-to-DC charging efficiency of 92% our there. For the sake of this, let’s say the charging transformer is 90% efficient.
That means to charge from zero to full you’d take
(210 kWh / 0.90) x $0.25 = $58.33
So the cost of ~$97 means there is about $39 of overhead and profit for the charger operator. At minimum, given the assumptions above.
“Not taking up for EVs, cause I will never own one, but ironically, had a friend last week who has a H2 Hummer and he was raging cause it cost him $97 bucks to fill it up.”
His tank must not have been empty. I have a 30 gallon tank that can take $120 to fill up.
The energy required to separate hydrogen from oxygen in water is more than the energy captured from the hydrogen, thus requiring an energy source such as a nuclear reactor.
Nice!
Probably. Did not ask.
I have a 2015 Buick Regal GS and have to use Premium and typically fill up at 1/4 tank left and its around $40 bucks =/-.
My old farm F-150 farm truck usually costs a little more but I don’t let that go near Empty either.
Why not use solar to charge it. The trailer required to produce 210kwh to drive 12,000 miles per year would be 58 feet long. I’m guessing the cost to be in the $150k range.
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The GMC Hummer EV is a not a zero-emissions vehicle. Not a single EV is zero-emission.
Hahaha.. Not even close.
Best case conditions a little over 300
Electric is a niche, commuter vehicle option... and for most drivers everyday needs, that’ll do.
However, you are spending as much or more for a commuter vehicle, as you would a fully functional vehicle.
Until Charging stations are ubiquitous and a full charge can be done in 5 minutes and can go a LEAST 300 miles in all weather and terrain conditions... Electrical Vehicles are commuter/niche vehicles.
SO if an owner charged to 80%, it would still be $77.51. And then you have to set there for an extended period of time. Hope you don’t have any other plans, honky!
Oh, and what’s the range of that 80% charge?
EV’s are a complete joke. No real practical purpose. Virtue signaling only.
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Since most of the road chargers I use are Electrify America, before going on a trip I sign up for a $4/month membership, then cancel the membership when the trip is over. (I don't do that yet because I get a year free membership for first year of owning the EV, but lets pretend that 1 year free charging plan doesn't exist.)
It's 24¢/minute for their 350kW chargers. I drove a total of 1,500 miles. (Really more like 2,100, but I'm excluding the first 220 miles I got from leaving my home with a full charge and starting these numbers from the first charger, plus I'm excluding the miles for a side trip we took while in Texas in which I charged with both ChargePoint and a free charger while we were at a stop for hours both for a picnic and for the women walking around a shopping plaza boring me to death). I spent a total of 119 minutes at the EA chargers. Each of those minutes would cost me 24¢ (again if I didn't have the free charging for a year plan), which would be $28.56.
Altogether it would have cost me $32.56 to charge on the road with the per minute cost + $4 membership fee. Since I left home with a full charge it's only fair to include the cost to fill it back up after I get home again (just like you do with an ICE car so you can go to work the next day). If I didn't have solar at home, then the fill back up when I got home would have cost about $7 (roughly 50kWh at the 14¢/kWh my power utility charged me on my last bill for the power my home drew from the grid beyond what my solar provided).
So about $40 to drive 1,500 miles with about 2 hours total charging time. If my wife wasn't with me and if I was in my ICE pickup, I probably would have spent an hour standing at gas pumps, thus the EV added an hour of wait time. But since my wife is with me on most trips, she likes to stop every 200 miles or so and walk around to stretch her legs anyway. That makes the EV charge time conducive to trips with her.
I’ve been wondering about that myself.
Pretty much assure you - that’s all BS.
I don't know about the Hummer EV, but my EV (a car) has a stated range of 304 miles when full charged. Like ICE cars having a lower mpg than the stated rate, my EV's real miles/kWh is lower and I can get 240 miles on a full charge driving with my lead foot on the interstate (80 mph) with the A/C. Since my wife likes to stop every 200 miles anyway to walk around a few minutes, the EV is good for us on trips.
All those free charging stations have now been converted to credit card tap charging stations... As they drain your Card, they fill your EV. I remember when Fayetteville, NC put two of them at different wildlife areas - I knew then the city was being slick about deploying these Chargers they got from the USG. Of course, I only a car parked in the EV slots once or twice... they were there because the lot already filled up.
Obama’s main focus in 2009 wasn’t ObamaCare it was Solyndra and restructuring GM.Here we go again.
Also, it states he charged 200+ kWh in 152 minutes. How many volt-amps was that charger??? And for me 200 kWh @ $.13/kWh is only about $26. His cost per kilowatt as you suggest seems whacked.
I tried to do the math on that and my 60 amp level 2 charger certainly would not get CLOSE to that.
P.S. my vehicle is a plug-in hybrid, the ONLY way to go EV is you ask me.
Heard a new term called charge anxiety from a Tesla driver. He will not drive it more than around 100 mile round trip and uses his wife’s truck for longer trips.
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