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MASSIVE RUSSIAN MISSILE AND DRONE ATTACK
Telegram Channels and Ukraine sources ^ | November 15, 2022 | Telegram Channels and Ukraine sources

Posted on 11/15/2022 7:04:13 AM PST by Cathi

Intel Slava Z, [11/14/2022 9:48 PM] 🇺🇲🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The State Department is preparing the basis for the start of possible negotiations between the Russian Federation and Ukraine - Politico sources

According to the publication, officials in the United States disagree on whether Kiev should resume dialogue with Moscow.

Intel Slava Z, [11/14/2022 9:37 PM] 🤡 Zelensky, in his video message at the G20 summit, said that there would be no “Minsk-3” between Russia and Ukraine, once again demanded that Russia confirm the territorial integrity of Ukraine, withdraw troops and pay reparations

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 3:04 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️Peskov: Ukraine cannot and does not want to negotiate, the special operation will continue

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 3:06 AM] 🇷🇺 Fresh statements by Patrushev on the topic of the war in Ukraine and the prospects for negotiations.

•The goal of the United States is to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy Russia, using the puppet regime in Kiev as a battering ram.

•The United States in the new national security strategy consolidates superiority over other countries and is ready to do anything for its goals.

•The tasks of the special operation will be fulfilled, despite the military assistance to the Kiev regime from the West.

•The United States and its allies play off the peoples, push the world into a global war

Intel Slava Z, [11/14/2022 8:14 PM] 🇷🇺🇮🇷 The head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Naryshkin, flew from Ankara to Tehran after meeting with the head of the CIA, Burns

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:20 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦❗”There is a mass launch of X-101 missiles in Ukraine with Tu-95 bombers from the Volgograd-Astrakhan region. More than 40 missiles” - Ukrainian media

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:20 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Explosions are reported in Zaporozhye

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:25 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Air alert announced in Kiev

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:33 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Air alert also announced in Zhytomyr, Cherkasy, Vinnytsia and Kirovohrad regions of Ukraine

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:35 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Ukrainian resources also write about launches from the Black Sea.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:57 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Air alert throughout Ukraine

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:00 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Eyewitnesses report missiles flying over Kharkiv.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:02 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦 2 rockets towards Poltava from Sumy.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:14 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Explosion reported in Kiev

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:15 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Reparation arriving from Russia

🔥🇺🇦In Ukraine, they reported launches of “Caliber” from the Black Sea by ships of the Black Sea Fleet and launches of cruise missiles by long-range aviation aircraft from the Caspian Sea region.

Russian strikes hit Ukrainian military targets

Footage captures moment Russian KAMIKAZE DRONE flies straight into Ukrainian army target, as wave of Russian strikes land across Ukraine, and air alert sounds in ALL regions of Ukraine.

Air defenses at work in Kiev, with smoke rising from Ukrainian capital as missiles THUNDER overhead.

6 posted on 11/15/2022, 5:29:53 AM by Cathi [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies | Report Abuse] To: Cathi ⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Missiles were spotted over the Poltava and Cherkasy regions

More explosions in the Kiev region

Over 40 missiles strikes at Ukrainian targets conducted by Russia in a single day, in the largest strike in the past 1-2 weeks, including at Kiev (see video for in example). Missiles noted over Sumy, Poltava, Dnepropetrovsk.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:27 AM] 💥The rocket flies to Zaporozhye! Meet the Khokhols!💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:28 AM] 💥Five rockets from Kakhovka to Nikolaev💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:31 AM] 💥In Kyiv, air defense shot down a multi-story booth of crests 💥 It is reported that this is a five-story residential building.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:31 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Information about missiles flying from Kherson region to Nikolaev⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:35 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Explosion reported in Poltava region⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:36 AM] 💥4 missiles are flying towards Vinnitsa. 1 towards Krivoy Rog.💥

Ukrainian sources report a massive attack.

Ukrainian media reports say that this attack is much more powerful than the Ukrainian terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge. Most likely, NATO intelligence warned them about this. The public writes about the huge number of missiles fired—more than 70.

We are monitoring the situation.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:43 AM] ⚡Air defense gave a complete fu#k to a residential building in Kiev⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:44 AM] 💥More missile launches!

▪️3 on Nikolaev. ▪️1 on Zhytomyr. ▪️3 on Zaporizhzhya.💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:46 AM] 💥2 rockets over Ternopil💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:47 AM] 💥 Air defense works in Vinnitsa. Fu#ked Vinnitsa💥

Missiles and nukes, [11/15/2022 5:44 AM] 👍🔥 Kiev

Zeli offered a peace deal during G20 , he got the answer today . It might mean nope 😆

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:48 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk region - explosions⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:52 AM] 🚨💥New missiles spotted over Ukraine!

▪️There are 2 over Vinnytsia region. ▪️Over Cherkasy region - 2. ▪️Over Kyiv region - 1. ▪️And one more - near Kropyvnytskyi.💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:53 AM] 💥Cherkasy and Khmelnytsky regions - explosions💥

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:44 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Arrival in the Pechersky district of Kiev is confirmed. This is the very center. The vaunted NATO air defense systems were unable to cover the center of Kiev

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:50 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions are reported in the Poltava, Vinnitsa, Khmelnytsky, Cherkasy and Dnepropetrovsk regions

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:58 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Ukrainian authorities announce the launch of the third wave of missiles from Russia

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:48 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk region - explosions⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:52 AM] 🚨💥New missiles spotted over Ukraine!

▪️There are 2 over Vinnytsia region. ▪️Over Cherkasy region - 2. ▪️Over Kyiv region - 1. ▪️And one more - near Kropyvnytskyi.💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:53 AM] 💥Cherkasy and Khmelnytsky regions - explosions💥

⚡️ Kiev residents capture building ALBAZE as multiple clouds of smoke rise from Ukrainian capital, following Russian strikes (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8590) with cruise missiles and kamikaze drones on Ukrainian military targets across country.

UPDATE:🗣 Residential building in flames a result of downed Ukrainian air defense missile while it was attempting to take down Russian warhead aimed at critical Ukrainian infrastructure, unknown number of casualties have been reported – adviser to Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry.

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️Powerful explosion in Odessa region, Ukrainian media report

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:01 AM] ⚡️It is reported that 10 cruise missiles from the Black Sea are flying towards Vinnitsa and, probably, Western Ukraine through Pervomaisk.

⚡️New explosions in Khmelnitsky region.

⚡️Repeated explosions in Vinnitsa region.

-ukraina_ru

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:06 AM] 💥Three explosions thundered in Kharkiv, Ukrainian media report

-Zvezdanews

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:07 AM] 💥 Explosions in Krivoy Rog

Footage from Zhytomyr appeared - local residents heard loud sounds of explosions there

Footage appeared from Zhytomyr, where the arrival was recorded. The city has now lost power and water.

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:50 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions are reported in the Poltava, Vinnitsa, Khmelnytsky, Cherkasy and Dnepropetrovsk regions

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:58 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Ukrainian authorities announce the launch of the third wave of missiles from Russia

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 6:05 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions in Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Cherkasy and Khmelnytsky regions

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 6:08 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions in Rovno and Lvov regions

[ Album ] ⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦 Ukrainian media report launch of 3rd wave of Russian missiles

Smoke rises from Russian strikes (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8590) in Odessa region, South Ukraine, with explosions captured in Cherkasy and Kiev regions, Central Ukraine, Kharkov region, East Ukraine, and Lvov region, West Ukraine, as Russian military strikes Ukrainian army targets and critical infrastructure.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:59 AM] 💥🚨Rockets over Odessa and Lvov💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:01 AM] 💥🚨Odessa💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:02 AM] 💥🚨New explosions in Kiev🚨💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:03 AM] Cherkassi💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:04 AM] 💥🚨7 missiles towards western Ukraine, 1 towards Kiev💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:18 AM] 🚨🚨🚨 Kryvyi Rog ⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:18 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Kiev and Lvov are partially de-energized⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:13 AM] The first round of persuasion to the negotiations goes according to plan

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:14 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Explosions reported in Lvov

Lights out in the city⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:16 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Again explosions Krivoy Rog, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Vinnitsa....⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:20 AM] 🚨💥‼️All major Ukrainian cities hit, infrastructure destroyed, lights and water missing - Ukrainian social media and social networks.💥

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️A critical infrastructure facility was hit in Rivne, part of the city without electricity - authorities

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:24 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️A critical infrastructure facility was hit in Rivne, part of the city without electricity - authorities

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:27 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The moment of impact on an infrastructure facility in Zhytomyr.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:28 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Local authorities announce arrival at a critical infrastructure facility in Kharkiv.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:28 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Explosions in the Ternopil region.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:28 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡In Lviv, substations are apparently smoking.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:29 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The consequences of two explosions, presumably in Khmelnitsky, were shown by local residents in social networks

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:30 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Explosions in the city of Kovel, Volyn region.

Intel Republic, [11/15/2022 6:13 AM] [ Album ] ⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦 Ukrainian media report launch of 3rd wave of Russian missiles

Smoke rises from Russian strikes (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8590) in Odessa region, South Ukraine, with explosions captured in Cherkasy and Kiev regions, Central Ukraine, Kharkov region, East Ukraine, and Lvov region, West Ukraine, as Russian military strikes Ukrainian army targets and critical infrastructure.

Intel Republic, [11/15/2022 6:22 AM] [ Album ] ⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦 Blackout in Kiev from Russian missile strikes

Huge black cloud of smoke rises above Ukrainian capital as Russian missiles (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8597) continue to wreak havoc across country including in Vinnitsa region, Central Ukraine, with metro in Kharkov, East Ukraine, shutting down due to power cut.

UPDATE: Power station hit by Russian strike in city of Rovno, West Ukraine, with resulting BLACKOUT in parts of city, while mayor of Kharkov, East Ukraine, says Russian strike hits critical infrastructure in city.

⚡Explosions in Lvov After the explosions, the city lost electricity.

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:35 AM] Repeated strikes are reported in Rivne and Kryvyi Rih, as well as explosions in the Zaporizhia, Volyn, and Ternopil regions. 

The video shows the result of missile attacks on Khmelnytskyy's energy infrastructure.The city is partially de-energised.

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:39 AM] ⚡️The attacks on targets in the Kiev Region continue - Minister of foreign affairs of Ukraine,D.Kuleba. Emergency blackouts have been imposed in the region.

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:41 AM] Russian Kalibr and X-101 missiles hit 15 regions. 5 additional Kalibr missiles are expected to be launched from the Black Sea.

— Archangel of Spetsnaz

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:45 AM] Russian strikes continue in a massive campaign not seen in some time.

Additional strikes hit Lvov region. In Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk, power outages spread across district.

Lvov, Zhytomyr, Lutsk are also reported without electricity. The main track substations are disabled, paralyzing rail transport for the moment.

Two missiles per target. Efficiency of work on targets 100%.

17.25 UPD Vinnitsa, Cherkasy, Volyn there is confirmation of strikes hitting targets.

17.30 UPD Rovno strikes confirmed.

17.30 UPD Krivoy Rog strikes confirmed.

17.30 UPD Khmelnitsky, Kharkov strikes confirmed.

17.31 UPD Ivano-Frankovsk confirmed

17.31 UPD Kovel, Ternopil confirmed

17.33 UPD Kyiv target: buildings of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and operational command confirmed

17.35 UPD Kremenchug target: substation 750kV confirmed

17:35 UPD Sumy confirmed

17.37 UPD Poltava confirmed

17.41 UPD Odessa (Ochakov, Yuzhny) confirmed

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:49 AM] [ Album ] Zhytomyr strikes confirmed against electrical grid infrastructure.

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:50 AM] Lutsk, Nikolayev, Nikolayev region—electricity confirmed kaput. A further 20 missiles reported heading for the Kiev region.

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:55 AM] Russian strikes continue in a massive campaign not seen in some time.

17.31 UPD Ivano-Frankovsk confirmed

17.31 UPD Kovel, Ternopil confirmed

17.33 UPD Kiev targets: Strikes on buildings of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and operational command confirmed

17.35 UPD Kremenchug target: substation 750kV confirmed

17:35 UPD Sumy confirmed

17.37 UPD Poltava confirmed

17.41 UPD Odessa (Ochakov, Yuzhny) confirmed

🇺🇦🔌⚠️ — 🇺🇦 Deputy Head of the Presidential Office of Ukraine: The energy situation is critical, emergency shutdowns are being introduced across the country


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To: fireman15

“any oligarch such as George Soros may be wielding far more power than those officially recognized as politicians.”

George Soros is evil, but he’s not an oligarch - he’s not got anywhere near that absolute, though geographically limited power.

” Any billionaire who has called Ukraine their home at one time or another can be presumed in the interests of their own self-preservation to be a player in the local political game.”

— and you would see the same in Putin’s Russia.

however, to the point - the oligarchs aren’t the reason for the war, nor the reason for the West’s support of the Ukrainian people


141 posted on 11/18/2022 2:56:29 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: fireman15

” They were duped by incoherent foreign policy decisions made largely by the Biden administration. “

Not really - on that, the spinelessness of the Biden administration, they were correct.

Biden was ready to given up on Ukraine and pull out like in Afghanistan. But Zelensky refusing his offer to escape was one of the turning points against Putin’s invasion.

The others were
1. Putin’s regime thought there was more support for Russia in the eastern provinces of ukraine than there actually was. This was because people saw the failure of Russia in 2014 and also Russia’s invasion in 2014 galvanised the sense of nationhood in Ukraine

2. Putin’s regime overestimated their military capacity - due to the heavy corruption (wayyyy more than Ukraine), their military is somewhere near Thailand’s in potency, leave alone the 3rd strongest in the world

3. Putin’s regime underestimated the training of Ukraine’s military - thinking them to be the same as in 2014. This wasn’t the case.


142 posted on 11/18/2022 2:59:45 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: fireman15
"But have the Russians been losing since last April as you declared in one of your recent posts? That is ridiculous. They have their own goals and measures of success that are unencumbered by political correctness or Western expectations."

1. They have been losing by any standard - look at the map on March 30th

compare that to the situation on 15th November

Definite pushback

2. you say "their own goals and measures of success"

Their goals were:
1. weaken NATO -- a big failure, it actually strengthened NATO and pushed Sweden and Finland to join NATO

2. Reduce Kyiv to vassaldom - another failure

3. Reduce Kyiv to demilitirazation to be picked apart piece by piece later - another failture

4. After that failed, to take the provinces in the east - with sham referenda --> with the fall of Kherson, that has failed as well

The failures are even talked about in Russian media - so yes, they have failed even by their standards

143 posted on 11/18/2022 3:04:19 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: fireman15
Are the Russians anxious to end this conflict.

The Russian people - yes. Even the ones who believe the state media that Ukrainians are drug-addledd Nazi genetic monsters want to end the conflict

The proof of this is 700,000 who left after the partial mobilization (and the nearly 1 million who had left earlier)

144 posted on 11/18/2022 3:05:56 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: fireman15

The roots of this conflict go back deepest to the 1200s

With the collapse of the anarchic “loose federation” called Kievan Rus, the Eastern Slavs were split.

With the enthronment of Kublai Khan the Mongol Khaganate was split.

Moscow, the tax-collector for the great Khagans, decided to join the race to recreate Chingiz Khan’s empire - and they won against Kazan, Sibr, etc.

They then decided to “reunite the Rus”, then “All Slavs”, then “All Slavs and all Orthodox” and reconquer Constantinople.

That’s why Tukhachevsky - an ardent anti-Christian, stil dreamt of conquering Constantinople.

That died in the ashes of World War 1.

With the end of the western part of the Tsarist empire, the Russians bid their time and then recreated it in 1945 with their satellite states.

That ended in 1990.

Now the Eastern Slavic states of Belarus and Ukraine were going their own way and the imperialist mindset of Muscowy couldn’t tolerate it.

Putin used this to keep a vice-like grip on power.

With his escalation of the 2nd Chechen war (read about the way the Russians destroyed 3000+ Vainakh nations in the Caucasus) he got a narrative to stay in power. And he’s done that ever since.

Russia would not stop until it’s imperialist mindset ends - and that can only end with a strong defeat - just as Imperial Japan, Imperial (and Nazi) Germany’s mindsets ended with World War II. Or Britain and France’s imperialist mindsets ended with the Suez canal and then the troubles in Malaysia and Indo-China.


145 posted on 11/18/2022 3:11:59 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Cronos
Russia would not stop until it's imperialist mindset ends - and that can only end with a strong defeat - just as Imperial Japan, Imperial (and Nazi) Germany's mindsets ended with World War II

This is very sad. All the research that you have done and you have learned nothing. The conclusion you have reached is that we should enter into WWIII with likely billions of dead to teach Russia a lesson. Try to keep in mind that Russia has the world's largest nuclear arsenal. They have thousands and thousands of nuclear war heads of all shapes and sizes, more than the rest of the world combined. That is the reality, and it means that war is not the solution when it comes to teaching them a lesson. The good thing is that the Russian government has been moving in what most would agree is a better direction at least for their own citizens wellbeing in recent times. Do they still commit evil acts... obviously! But our own government has been going in what most currently agree is the wrong direction and our involvement in Ukraine is just one of the more minor examples.

You are a fool and you have reached a foolish conclusion. This is none of our business. We currently have idiots in charge in the United States. And even our officer corps is in a shambles. We are not capable of teaching Russia or anyone else a lesson at this time. Even if we were, the way to do it is not by destroying our economy and our allies’ economies, enriching the Russians, and increasing their status among those who live in countries who contain the vast majority of the world's population.

Russia has not been expanding since the cold war ended. Western intelligence and oligarchs such as Soros and others previously listed have been meddling in the affairs of Ukraine and other countries trying to further weaken Russia. This is not because this has been in our best interests, the best interests of local populations or for any altruistic purpose at all. These characters are diverting massive amounts of money towards themselves and laundering it using the conflicts for cover.

This is what globalists, neocons and others do... we watch one hand while the other hand robs us blind. Many of them hope for a one world government where their opportunities for complete control over everyone else will be even greater. This is something that has some appeal to those who live in 3rd world sh*t holes hoping to “share the wealth”. It is a fruitless endeavor for those of us who live in wealthy countries. All we have accomplished in the case of Ukraine is pushing Russia to the brink of nuclear war.

We should do our best to stay out of any region that has a history of endless wars that go back over a thousand years. Nothing that we have done in Ukraine is helping anyone other than those who are diverting funds intended to kill Russians into their own pockets. This is all stupidity at the most pathetic level.

146 posted on 11/18/2022 9:02:47 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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