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Ukraine Worked With Democrats Against Trump in Election 2016 to Stop Putin. That Bet Backfired Badly. (FLASHBACK March 10, 2022)
realclearinvestigations ^ | 10/17/2022 | paul sperry

Posted on 10/17/2022 8:30:49 AM PDT by bitt

Ukrainian-Democratic coordination traces back to 2014, when then-Obama Vice President Joe Biden helped install Petro Poroshenko in Kiev. Then came collusion against Trump.

Six years ago, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of their country, the Ukrainians bet that a Hillary Clinton presidency would offer better protection from Russian President Vladimir Putin, even though he had invaded Crimea during the Obama-Biden administration, whose Russian policies Clinton vowed to continue.

Working with both the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign, Ukrainian government officials intervened in the 2016 race to help Clinton and hurt Donald Trump in a sweeping and systematic foreign influence operation that's been largely ignored by the press. The improper, if not illegal, operation was run chiefly out of the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, where officials worked hand-in-glove with a Ukrainian-American activist and Clinton campaign operative to attack the Trump campaign. The Obama White House was also deeply involved in an effort to groom their own favored leader in Ukraine and then work with his government to dig up dirt on – and even investigate -- their political rival.

Ukrainian and Democratic operatives also huddled with American journalists to spread damaging information on Trump and his advisers – including allegations of illicit Russian-tied payments that, though later proved false, forced the resignation of his campaign manager Paul Manafort. The embassy actually weighed a plan to get Congress to investigate Manafort and Trump and stage hearings in the run-up to the election.

As it worked behind the scenes to undermine Trump, Ukraine also tried to kneecap him publicly. Ukraine's ambassador took the extraordinary step of attacking Trump in an Op-Ed article published in The Hill, an influential U.S. Capitol newspaper, while other top Ukrainian officials slammed the GOP candidate on social media.

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1 posted on 10/17/2022 8:30:49 AM PDT by bitt
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To: Liz; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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2 posted on 10/17/2022 8:31:07 AM PDT by bitt (<IMG SRC=' 'width=50%>)
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To: bitt

Compare with Watergate. This seems ... bigger.


3 posted on 10/17/2022 8:32:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: bitt

Obama provided Ukraine blankers.

Trump provided Ukraine weapons.


4 posted on 10/17/2022 8:34:48 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Ukrainians bet that a Hillary Clinton presidency would offer better protection from Russia”

Absolute nonsense. Obama donated Crimea to Putin.

Hillary accepted $100 million from Russia in the Uranium One deal. That was almost certainly a down payment on Russia getting the rest of Ukraine when she was in office.


5 posted on 10/17/2022 8:37:37 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: bitt

Since day one of this mess, it has been obvious that The Biden Regime has been paying off Ukraine, hush money over so much information that they have on the Bidens corruption as well as on the Dem Party of the good ole USA. Putin is not nearly as evil as he is portrayed. His war I do not support, but I do Not feel any empathy for the Ukrainian government, only the people there that have been snowed and controlled by their government. Coming soon to a US State near you!!


6 posted on 10/17/2022 8:38:20 AM PDT by conservative_cyclist (Trump Fan from Day 1, keep America Safe)
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To: bitt

Ukrainian-Democratic coordination traces back to 2014, when then-Obama Vice President Joe Biden helped install Petro Poroshenko in Kiev. Then came collusion against Trump.

Ukraine is *once again* melding in the upcoming mid-term election with things such as their ridiculous propaganda to paint Sen. Rand Paul as an agent of Russia.


7 posted on 10/17/2022 8:53:00 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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I haven’t seen anywhere the question on the millions Joe and son got from eukraine and the billions Joe is sending eukraine is paying to save his hide and sons.. what was the give and take going on in Joe’s vp.

China...the dems stolen election and the gop refusing to do something about the biden president being encapable and the congress working to get Trump out for good.

Are they both blind and dumb on China?
If they were ever going to invade Taiwan . And if they ever were going to go nuclear..you think they would pass up the opportunity while this country is divided and the gov is corrupt and the acting pres is just a shell.

We have never been so vulnerable!!!


8 posted on 10/17/2022 8:55:30 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: bitt

Corrupt and DEMENTED BIDEN (DIRECTED BY OBAMA, JARRETT and RICE who actually run things) the removal of the USA as an energy independent nation giving Russia the MONEY TO INVADE UKRAINE! The invasion would not have happened it BIDEN and the RATS hadn’t STOLEN THE 2020 elections.


9 posted on 10/17/2022 8:56:29 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: conservative_cyclist
the people There that have been snowed and controlled by their government
10 posted on 10/17/2022 8:57:27 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: bitt

Oh No! The Paid Ukrainian Trolls who have taken over Free Republic are not going to like this Post.


11 posted on 10/17/2022 9:09:24 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: bitt

Those fine Ukrainians the Vindmen brothers were always stabbing Trump.

Scummy RATS.


12 posted on 10/17/2022 9:10:11 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DannyTN

Yes he did and then they stabbed him in the back.


13 posted on 10/17/2022 9:11:11 AM PDT by dforest
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To: All

Politico.com
By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN
01/11/2017

<>Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire; foreign aid billions threatened
<>Kiev scrambles to make amends with president-elect Trump after working to boost Clinton.
<>President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, and the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the presidential race.

Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

A Politico investigation found
<><>Ukrainian govt officials helped Hillary and trashed Trump, questioning his fitness for office.
<><>They disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption
<><>They suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election.
<><>They helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don’t think we’ve ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we’ve seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election.

And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.Ukraine Worked With Democrats Against Trump in 2016 to Stop Putin. The Bet Backfired Badly.
Real Clear Investigations ^
Posted on 3/10/2022, 8:11:28 AM by FarCenter

Six years ago, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of their country, the Ukrainians bet that a Hillary Clinton presidency would offer better protection from Russian President Vladimir Putin, even though he had invaded Crimea during the Obama-Biden administration, whose Russian policies Clinton vowed to continue.

Working with both the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign, Ukrainian government officials intervened in the 2016 race to help Clinton and hurt Trump in a sweeping and systematic foreign influence operation that’s been largely ignored by the press. The improper, if not illegal, operation was run chiefly out of the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, where officials worked hand-in-glove with a Ukrainian-American activist and Clinton campaign operative to attack the Trump campaign. The Obama White House was also deeply involved in an effort to groom their own favored leader in Ukraine and then work with his government to dig up dirt on – and even investigate — their political rival.

Ukrainian and Democratic operatives also huddled with American journalists to spread damaging information on Trump and his advisers – including allegations of illicit Russian-tied payments that, though later proved false, forced the resignation of his campaign manager Paul Manafort. The embassy actually weighed a plan to get Congress to investigate Manafort and Trump and stage hearings in the run-up to the election.

As it worked behind the scenes to undermine Trump, Ukraine also tried to kneecap him publicly. Ukraine’s ambassador took the extraordinary step of attacking Trump in an Op-Ed article published in The Hill, an influential U.S. Capitol newspaper, while other top Ukrainian officials slammed the GOP candidate on social media.


14 posted on 10/17/2022 9:15:13 AM PDT by Liz (MAN PROPOSES.......... GOD DISPOSES )
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To: dforest

It was the Russian Igor Danchenko who stabbed Trump while working for the Deep State FBI and the Clintons.


15 posted on 10/17/2022 9:15:25 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

No it was Zelensky in the impeachment backstab.


16 posted on 10/17/2022 9:18:29 AM PDT by dforest
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To: bitt
No, the Ukrainian nationalists got what the wanted -- a President that would okay an offensive against ethnic Russian population in Ukraine.

But, Ukrainian, apparently, didn't understand that the Russians would kick their asses and the American people wouldn't tolerate American troops and NATO intervening directly.

17 posted on 10/17/2022 10:11:20 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: bitt

RATs said that enlisting Russia to help Trump was treason. As usual they accuse us of their own crimes. These RATs are now exposed as traitors themselves. Everyone involved needs to receive the traditional penalty for treasin.


18 posted on 10/17/2022 12:06:02 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: bitt

“Ukraine Worked With Democrats Against Trump in Election 2016 to Stop Putin.”

Pretty much explains why the Never Trumpers here are so pissed at Russia.


19 posted on 10/17/2022 12:45:09 PM PDT by BobL
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To: bitt

The Zeepers don’t care and are convinced it was all masterminded by Putin.


20 posted on 10/17/2022 12:47:17 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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