Even this marine biologist knows what a woman is
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Posted on 10/13/2022 7:29:48 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
It will be much simpler to fight NOW against your daughters and young wives being in the position to be drafted, than for your daughters and young wives to go through any conscientious objection process later.
Refer to NDAA FY 2023. This comes up every year, and we must be diligent every year. Interestingly, the requirement for women to register for Selective Service was in the House bill and not in the Senate's. This year, it was not in the House bill, but is in the Senate version.
We urge those who value the core values which our Armed Forces defend to contact their U.S. senators NOW and urge them to have removed any provision requiring females to register.
Don't create this potential to hollow out our homes and families, should it ever be deemed necessary to reinstate a military draft.
According to a FOX news report on Armed Forces recruiting:
U.S. Army - 15,000 recruits short of goal.
National Guard lost 7,500.
U.S. Navy met only 10% of its goal.
U.S. Marine Corp met only 30% of its goal.
U.S. Air Force met only 10% of its goal.
“They don’t want to be in Humvees with men to whom they are not married.”
I know. They’re hypocrites that want the best of both worlds.
I think what is being missed here is the overall needs of the military. For many years, people have been placed in jobs in the military that they tested for and showed an aptitude for. Those jobs still exist. It takes many different capacities and skills to run any business and the military is no different.
One of the major differences of military operations is physical capacity. A vast majority of the women that wish to serve do not have the physical capacity to accomplish the work load of some jobs especially combat. The needs of the job require upper body strength that women by their body shapes, hormones, bone density, and history do not have.
The women are better suited, however, than many of the men for most administrative needs and can work along side the men that aren’t capable of combat either. And I’m not talking taking short hand. Training and troop movement are a couple of tasks that are the backbone of the military and it doesn’t take a 225 pound body builder to do those tasks and at many levels.
“...than for your daughters and young wives to go through any conscientious objection process later.”
This statement is very disappointing. It appears that you are talking about women using God for personal preferences because is leads the reader to think it is being used as an excuse not to do something whether the reason is real or not. And that’s lying using God’s name. Taking the Lord’s name in vain is another way of saying “false believer” or “hypocrite.”
Jesus put it this way in Mark 7:6-9 “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: `These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’
So going after a blank ticket of no women in the business is not only cutting them short, it is taking away a resource that is very important to our military. And the buttons that are pushed to launch don’t recognize if the finger is manicured and has a feminine touch.
wy69
Destruction or at least marginalization of the traditional (Bible-centered) home and family is key to the agenda.
I think they should ...
Theres lots of office work that the women can continue to do that would free up the men to fight ...
Even this marine biologist knows what a woman is
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Trashy women are common but refuse collectors are mythical, like unicorns.
I was going to add roofers but I actually saw one a few years ago.
I don’t want any of my grandsons lugging a rifle in some jungle on some futile “nation building” exercise either. So?
This is the world that feminists have created. Giving women more consideration than men is discrimination. Enjoy the brave new world.
Yes, enjoy.
Ooh, good point. The one I was about to make, too.
No, make women register. Wanna claim that you are equal or better? Then step the ‘Ell up!
Wanna ID as non-binary? OK, we would love to have a permanent class of barracks toidy cleaners. Go for it.
Women, the non-femNazi ones; y’all need to get off your butts and speak out. You are being degraded and disgraced by the nutjobs claiming to speak on your behalf. Time to choose.
Typed in my best Ketanji voice.
womxn
i dont want women drafted
but until they man the ramparts
i dont want to hear anything about equality
We take the positions we take because the home/family is the very core of our society. Weaken the home/family by removing important components and you weaken the entire nation. That is even proven in crime statistics. In fact, without the core home and family, the Armed Forces have very little to defend; the country is shot.
Your use of Mark 7:6-9 is itself very disappointing, as the subject was the Talmudic traditions which tended to cast off the words of God. We are obeying the Scriptures themselves with regard to our homes and families and how they are trained. What we practice are not merely "preferences" or "traditions of men" as you suggest. Placing women in close quarters with men to whom they are not married, for example, is disobedience to God's order.
We had already been preaching for years (!) on the Biblical home structure when women first went in as "intelligence officers" in combat zones in Iraq. What we believe were already set Biblical convictions when the first talk of women being required to register for the draft came up at any official level around 1994.
We have archived letters to our elected representatives on this issue all the way back to 1994: to Lee Hamilton, Richard Lugar, Dan Coats, Evan Bayh, and more. If we had waited until after female registration had become law before we spoke out, then your position would sound reasonable. But the fact is we have been speaking on this issue for a quarter century already, and have been nailing it year-after-year whenever the NDAA comes up.
I am a veteran and was an Air Force NCO, and for a long time the NCOIC of a civil engineering structural shop that had some of the first women in that field. I also became a Christian during those years, called to preach in those years, was a young husband, and finished two years of Bible College training before separating from the Air Force. I was an assistant pastor of a Baptist church while yet in the Air Force. Even outside of combat, as an NCOIC of a unit, I saw the problems with women in close quarters with men to whom they were not married.
You are flat wrong to confuse "preferences" and "making excuses" with a man's deeply-help Biblical convictions. Unfortunately, it would be people who think like you who would be sitting on the boards when women of genuine Biblical conviction must apply for conscientious objection. You probably don't recognize deeply-held Biblical conviction on this subject. WE KNOW GOD; WE DON'T USE GOD.
On the side, you would do well with a much better English translation of the Bible than the one you quoted. The one you quoted came from the Minority Text originating out of Alexandria, Egypt and going through Rome. The base text for it is corrupt.
We don’t need to be forcing women out of their homes and away from their families.
“Are you ignorant of the millions of women who DON’T make the demands of the radicals? Are are the “they” in your statement? You haven’t met my wife or my four daughters, or my adult granddaughters. Don’t allow TV to convince you that all American women are like those you see in the streets.” [John Leland 1789, post 12]
“...the buttons that are pushed to launch don’t recognize if the finger is manicured and has a feminine touch.” [whitney69, post 22]
We might think, before declaring preferred moral stances unconditionally superior to historical and physical constraints.
This is 2022, not the 1770s. Physical strength and raw manpower are no longer the answer for all things military. That has been true for more than a century: review the history of the War to End Wars.
Women are superior to men at many military tasks. Combativeness and prowess in mothering are not mutually exclusive.
‘Destruction or at least marginalization of the traditional (Bible-centered) home and family is key to the agenda.’
but what about a non Bible-centered family...? is it okay for them to be destroyed...?
I think you missed the point of my post. I am saying that the people not in agreement with women being in the military are not realizing the importance of them. But it all has to do with proper screening for job capacity. That’s why the military has MOS and AFSC categories.
“Don’t allow TV to convince you that all American women are like those you see in the streets.”
TV has nothing to do with me. I trained troops in the military for over 25 years for fitness and combat capacity. I know the needs and the difference.
“Physical strength and raw manpower are no longer the answer for all things military.”
But that is one of the major concerns for the entry of women into the business and the publics’ push back against bringing them in. There is no substitute for the physical ability to run a mile for escape with a full pack and weapons. Not all men can do it and I have not seen more than a half dozen women able to get by with the effort. But women do a very good job on the admin side to include combat training and actual behind the scenes work like drone operation. I have a niece that works drones, DOD UAS, for the military. She’s AF in the main command in the deep south. Her’s are used all over the world.
So what the public is up in arms about with the drafting of people that can’t handle the job they are put into is a little ahead of the happening at this time. No one has been drafted so no one has been placed in a career field they can’t handle...yet. But that happens without the draft.
wy69
Being 100% against conscription of any kind, if it goign to exist it should apply to everyone of adult age with zero exceptions other than absolute physical incapacity
Might cut down on unneeded wars a bit
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