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Energy analyst says EV charging more expensive than gas
Just The News ^ | By Kevin Bessler Updated: October 10, 2022 - 11:35pm

Posted on 10/11/2022 9:14:01 AM PDT by Red Badger

As Illinois transitions into a more electric vehicle-friendly state, an energy analyst says the cost to charge vehicles may slow the process.

Gov. J.B. Pritzker wants 1 million electric vehicles on Illinois roadways by the end of the decade. According to the U.S.

As Illinois transitions into a more electric vehicle-friendly state, an energy analyst says the cost to charge vehicles may slow the process.

Gov. J.B. Pritzker wants 1 million electric vehicles on Illinois roadways by the end of the decade. According to the U.S. Department of Energy, at the end of last year, there were just over 36,000 EV’s registered in Illinois.

Energy analyst Bill Cinnamon said the adoption of EVs will hit a brick wall when people realize how expensive it is to charge EVs at work or at public charging stations. And charging costs will continue to escalate as the price of grid electricity skyrockets.

“If we trade gas stations for utility-based EV charging during the day, our costs to drive the car and fuel up those cars is going to cost even more than gas at $3.50 a gallon,” Cinnamon said.

Illinois lags the rest of the country in the number of EV charging stations. Recently, the U.S. Department of Transportation awarded the state $22 million for the installation of electric vehicle charging stations along interstate highways.

“Because of my administration’s work on the nation-leading Climate and Equitable Jobs Act and Reimagining Electric Vehicles Act, Illinois stands at the forefront of the emerging electric vehicle industry,” Pritzker said.

State transportation officials have voiced concerns that a new federal initiative to create a national charging network for electric vehicles might be too impractical for rural areas. As the effort to build a network gets underway, a number of rural states are asking the Federal Highway Administration to loosen requirements for how many chargers must be placed at each location, and the distance between each station.

Cinnamon said EVs are great for the environment, but only cheaper to operate if you charge smartly.

“If you are planning to buy an EV, you should definitely charge your car at home, ideally from rooftop solar under full retail net metering,” Cinnamon said.


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To: packagingguy; joshua c

You and Joshua c win post of the day for succinct statement of the truth.


21 posted on 10/11/2022 9:37:00 AM PDT by Orosius (A)
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To: Red Badger

The EV MasterGatorBater will be along soon to issue a “Wrong!”


22 posted on 10/11/2022 9:38:08 AM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
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To: rickomatic
It makes sense for us.
Sure, a tiny EV. Which you're comfortable doing b/c you have an ICE truck and a roomy ICE SUV.

I'd wager there's not many households that are all & only EV.

23 posted on 10/11/2022 9:40:31 AM PDT by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ‘No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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To: Red Badger

And don’t forget to add the cost of your TIME waiting to charge the @#$% thing.


24 posted on 10/11/2022 9:41:30 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Where do get that 40% number from?


25 posted on 10/11/2022 9:41:44 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Red Badger

And the people never consider that their electric rate will eventually skyrocket...


26 posted on 10/11/2022 9:41:59 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Red Badger

“Did you burn that gas, or did you get someone to burn it for ya?”

It’s the centralized vs distributed problem. Are electric plants more efficient producers of electric energy when transmission losses and battery charging losses are considered? Is centralized emissions scrubbing superior to car mounted catalytic converters? Etc.

The analysis is complex, and usually I, as a lay reader, only see the part that favors the talking points of the writer.


27 posted on 10/11/2022 9:42:03 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The three Laws of Thermodynamics in a nutshell:

1. You cannot win the game.

2. You cannot break even.

3. You cannot quit the game.................😉

Red Badger’s 4th Law:

4. You cannot change the Rules...................


28 posted on 10/11/2022 9:45:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

The more ev’s sold in my area the higher my electric bill will be.
F ‘em..


29 posted on 10/11/2022 9:46:00 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie

That is inevitable. When that happens, there will be a revolution.


30 posted on 10/11/2022 9:47:46 AM PDT by maro (MAGA!)
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To: Sacajaweau; All
"Where do these climate folks think electricity comes from. It’s totally manufactured."

Government-manufactured junk science escapism as excuse to raise taxes imo.

31 posted on 10/11/2022 10:02:48 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: citizen
It makes sense for us.Sure, a tiny EV. Which you're comfortable doing b/c you have an ICE truck and a roomy ICE SUV. I'd wager there's not many households that are all & only EV.

Exactly. EV's should be a choice and not a government mandate. Period.
32 posted on 10/11/2022 10:04:57 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: 1FreeAmerican
1FreeAmerican :" Where do get that 40% number from?

post # 69 Chuckles (on previous post at https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4098051/posts?q=1&;page=51):

For an interesting discussion of some assumptions on EV's and solar and wind, watch (Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZsXyDkyrCk&t=58s

33 posted on 10/11/2022 10:14:54 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; 1FreeAmerican
"By the time you add in the 40% power drop in converting electric into the car battery..."

Umm. No.
I have a 5% drop when charging close to 10kW at home, and almost 10% drop when charging at 5kW at home. Thus the 3.3miles/kWh I usually get when driving I count as an actual 3 miles/kWh from the AC outlet.

And the charging at 5kW is only because I have solar and want to increase the odds that my total load is within the 18kW DC-to-AC conversion limit of my inverters. So if we're charging the EV (5kW) while the clothes dryer is running on high (+ 6kW = 11kW) while we're in the hot tub (+ 3.5kW = 14.5kW) plus various incidentals like cable modem, electric clocks, etc. (+ 0.5kW = 15kW) we're still not pulling power from the grid and adding to our power bill because the inverters can provide that much power.

34 posted on 10/11/2022 10:14:55 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: rickomatic
One more thing, Mr. rick.

I'm also retired and drive very little so just for transporting me, an EV would be fine. I do, though, need more room than is available in a small EV sedan. A new EV the size of my Sante Fe is quite expensive and I would not buy a used EV.

Also, I would not want to drive an EV or have one charging charging or even sitting in my garage.

Click for a video of a spontaneoue EV battery exploding:

EV spontaenous combust

35 posted on 10/11/2022 10:18:45 AM PDT by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ‘No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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To: rickomatic
Yes, sir. Let the consumer and the free marketplace decide.

NO to taxpayer subsidies and government mandates.

36 posted on 10/11/2022 10:29:05 AM PDT by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ‘No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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To: citizen

Charging charging is more risky than just charging :)


37 posted on 10/11/2022 10:45:47 AM PDT by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ‘No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Is lower cost really the point of owning an electric car?

Battery powered cars are the dream of white liberal 'elites' who feel superior to folks who care about piddlin' little things like 'what this costs to operate'.

38 posted on 10/11/2022 11:08:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Trump EARNED his money. Democrats steal theirs from taxpayers. It's why they hate Trump.)
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To: Red Badger

Trying to confuse people with facts I see.


39 posted on 10/11/2022 11:20:02 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Jeff Chandler

Other than virtue signaling what could the motive be?


40 posted on 10/11/2022 11:31:55 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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