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Kaiser paper admits that the COVID vaccines make you more likely to be infected after 150 days
substack.com ^ | October 7, 2022 | Steve Kirsch

Posted on 10/08/2022 4:45:45 PM PDT by ransomnote

Which means if you want to stay protected, you'll likely need to get a shot every six months for the rest of your life. Otherwise, you'll be more at risk than the unvaccinated.

 
 

A friend pointed me to this excellent article by Dr. Meryl Nass entitled Negative vaccine efficacy keeps rearing its ugly head. Now Kaiser admits it.

Meryl has testified that the COVID vaccines are not “safe and effective.” As a result, the state medical board suspended her license to practice medicine. Because that’s just the way it goes.

Meryl points out that this paper from Kaiser shows negative Vaccine Efficacy (VE) after 3 shots compared to the unvaccinated comparison group.

The negative VE is only for variants which are currently circulating!!!

According to the paper, the vaccine is protective against variants (BA.1) that are NOT circulating anymore. So that benefit isn’t particularly useful.

Summary

Even Kaiser now admits multiple shots of the “vaccine” will make you more likely to get infected.

And we have other data showing that the hospitalization and death benefits are mirages as well.

So taking the shot is a good way to increase your odds of dying. Why we are mandating this for college students is beyond me.



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To: gas_dr
What is your proof of these stammers beside pulling it straight out of your a** Let’s start with most medical providers are leftist. Your source for this comment?

We could start with undocumented, uncouth, unethical 'doctors' on the internet.

41 posted on 10/09/2022 2:50:02 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: gas_dr

...what are you refering to as “delta”? the Va((ines haven’t saved anyone. ...ymmv


42 posted on 10/09/2022 3:18:02 AM PDT by PalominoGuy ( )
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To: gas_dr
Let’s start with most medical providers are leftist. Your source for this comment?

I live in a rural overall conservative area.

I came to not trust my doctor due to several statements he made.

I have a copy of the voter checklist.

I found ONE local doctor listed as a republican.

He is full up with patients, taking no more.

He became full up within days of coming here over 15 years ago.

An Anesthesiologist is a republican, a few nurses and other staff are.

Right now, with the election coming, it's easy to tell where the medical staff and school teachers live.

Most of their yards are well adorned with democrat signs.

Most of them wear their politics on their sleeve, political evangelicals.

43 posted on 10/09/2022 5:23:55 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: Mogger

I see. You make a general statement based on living in a rural area where you have a copy of s checklist.

You make statements or fact based on zero evidence. Interesting.


44 posted on 10/09/2022 6:17:54 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: ransomnote

Sounds like BS. I was boosted in January and got Covid for the first time in September


45 posted on 10/09/2022 6:21:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Mogger

Good tip on checking the voter registration of doctors.

Ignore the haters—great post.


46 posted on 10/09/2022 6:35:10 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: entropy12
It has been 575 days since first jab of covid vaccine for me. No covid, no symptoms, all covid tests came negative. Ditto for my wife.

I am happy that you and your family are well, and it is possible the vaccine is protecting you. But whether or not any individual got a vaccine, there is no way to predict how he/she will react to these vaccines - the data is still being collected regarding long term side effects.

My family opted NOT to get vaccinated, and like you, we are also doing well.

If it's not broken, don't fix it. If you are not sick, don't bother to call your doctor.

47 posted on 10/09/2022 7:26:13 AM PDT by Deaf and Discerning
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To: Deaf and Discerning

Vaccine does not “PROTECT” anyone from infection.
No vaccine has ever been able to build a virus proof filter in the respiratory system. Only function of vaccine is to provide extra tools to fight infection after it occurs.

One of the reasons I decided to get the jabs was because my daughter is a biologist working with clinical effects of new cancer drugs and vaccines. She advised me to get the covid vaccine. I value her opinion much more than any poster here on Freerepublic. She was right. I had zero adverse side effects from the vaccine. But the little piece of paper from CDC showing I am fully vaccinated allowed me to enjoy my 43rd through 47th cruises during last 12 months. If you are not vaccinated, you will not be allowed to enjoy a cruise.

Less than 25% of Americans got covid. So you are among the 75% lucky ones. stay safe from covid because it can get nasty if infected.


48 posted on 10/09/2022 8:17:49 AM PDT by entropy12
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To: entropy12
Vaccine does not “PROTECT” anyone

It's not a 'vaccine'. Name any other vaccine that alters your DNA as part of the 'cure'.

CDC is making up definitions your body can't keep! ("You can't handle the truth" - J. Nicholson)

49 posted on 10/09/2022 9:03:02 AM PDT by RideForever (Oh damn! Another dangling par ...)
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To: gas_dr
I see. You make a general statement based

How many times did you vote for biden?

50 posted on 10/09/2022 9:05:52 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: CatOwner

I’m guessing their eventual extreme is a continuous booster IV you have to carry around.


51 posted on 10/09/2022 9:07:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RideForever

I cazre less if the vaccine is based on DNA or tobacco juice. All I care is if it is capable of adding anti-bodies in the body. If it does, then by my definition it is a vaccine.

Vaccines do NOT PROTECT from infection. I have explained this more times than necessary. One of the most effeective vaccine ever created, which literlly eradicated smallpox from earth, did not protect me from infection. But it must be those additional anti-bodies created in my little 10 year body which helped me survive smallpox infection with 30%+ mortality rates. I got infected 2 years after vaccination.


52 posted on 10/09/2022 9:53:49 AM PDT by entropy12
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To: ransomnote

My conclusion in all of this is that I could catch, spread and get sick with the fauci flu just as easily without the “vaccines” as I could if I received the “vaccines” ... so why bother getting the “vaccine” much less the “booster vaccines”.


53 posted on 10/09/2022 9:57:27 AM PDT by glennaro (Live life unbullied and unafraid. Choose to ignore or fight the irrationality that surrounds you.)
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To: Mogger

Another broad statement with no back up
I enjoy watching you destroy your own arguments with strangely bizarre attacks
You seem the more typical Biden voter….can’t follow and argument. Makes broad statements that are obviously untrue. Hoping that something will take the heat off your simultaneous ability to formulate a cogent argument while being unable to simply not respond to being exposed for expressing fact Ad opinion.
And for the record I have voted for Biden exactly zero times.


54 posted on 10/09/2022 1:09:19 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: entropy12
Less than 25% of Americans got covid. So you are among the 75% lucky ones. stay safe from covid because it can get nasty if infected.

Thank you for your input. I can't help but notice there are so many reports out there that indicates the vaccines can be worse than the Covid --- that is the basic unknown issue. Who should I trust more: CDC's recommendation and predictions, or these non-CDC sources?

If you have to do the vaccine to cruise, that is fine. I'm too old and uninterested to even consider leaving my county.

55 posted on 10/09/2022 7:24:34 PM PDT by Deaf and Discerning
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To: Deaf and Discerning

Get your mind focused on MAGNITUDE.
Otherwise you are not using most of your God given brain power.
More than 260 MILLION Americans have received covid vaccines. Now that is Magnitude
How many million have proven adverse effects from vaccines?
This is where you can use your brain. Add up all the anecdotes. Then get back to m.


56 posted on 10/10/2022 6:12:58 AM PDT by entropy12
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Kaiser and others seem to be bilking the American taxpayer bigtime by exploiting Medicare Advantage patients
57 posted on 10/10/2022 6:25:15 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: gas_dr

And yet he made his case. You didn’t even try, only produced a snide remark. Interesting indeed..., 🥱


58 posted on 10/10/2022 7:07:33 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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To: ransomnote; Jane Long; nickcarraway
Meanwhile...

CDC to vote about forcing kids to take Covid jabs to attend school.

Per the link at the link, the meeting is being held tomorrow, October 19.

59 posted on 10/18/2022 6:33:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: mewzilla

One of the comments wondered if this is even legal. Another said this might FINALLY be the straw that wakes up the Karen parents.


60 posted on 10/18/2022 6:42:40 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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