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What would be the repercussions and the future for NATO if it is proved Biden administration sabotaged the Nord Stream pipeline?

Posted on 10/06/2022 10:54:40 AM PDT by MNDude

Everyone knows about the destruction of the NORD streamline. If it is proved that Russia destroyed it, causing harm to Germany, then a joint NATO action against Russia is likely to be expected.

However, what if the people of Germany go through the most difficult winter in recent years. Endless stories of German people burning furniture to stay warm. Then, indisputable evidence that the Biden administration was responsible is revealed. What then?

Would that be the end of NATO? Would USA just get a scolding from European leaders? Would USA be considered the attacker the treated was intended to defend from?

My guess is the European NATO leaders are too addicted the the US dollar gravy train that NATO gives them, and nothing much would come of it.

Your thoughts?


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To: MNDude

Whoever blew the pipelines is a criminal and should be treated accordingly.


61 posted on 10/06/2022 1:37:00 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Boogieman

It will come out eventually. This kind of operation requires multiple actors and lots of lots of stuff. Someone will spill the beans. Will they be believed?


62 posted on 10/06/2022 1:42:53 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Captain Compassion

“Someone will spill the beans. Will they be believed?”

People will believe what they want to believe. And even if someone says “XXX did this” that still isn’t actionable, since government XXX will just say “that’s a lie, he’s probably working for government YYY”.


63 posted on 10/06/2022 1:48:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: rrrod

“ K.T.MacFarland laid out a good case against Russia. She is convinced Putin was behind the pipeline sabotage. As Trump’s National Security advisor I trust her more than the Putin cult.”
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Neocon much? K.T. MacFarland is John Bolton in a dress.


64 posted on 10/06/2022 1:51:27 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: 353FMG

Don’t know why but we all remember when Biden halted middle test because he did want to make Putin angry...


65 posted on 10/06/2022 2:15:58 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: 353FMG

Don’t know why but we all remember when Biden halted middle test because he did want to make Putin angry...


66 posted on 10/06/2022 2:17:13 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: House Atreides

She was a solid Trumper.... just the opposite of the Putin Puffers.


67 posted on 10/06/2022 2:24:32 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Tell It Right

My number one suspect:

GreenPeace

Wouldn’t put it past them to take the opportunity to force renewables. If Germany freezes they will say “see, pipelines are dangerous. We have to go 100% on renewable energy.

Never let a crisis go to waste.


68 posted on 10/06/2022 2:54:23 PM PDT by sloanrb
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To: MNDude
If the US (possibly in league with the UK) can unilaterally decide to take this sabotage action affecting Germany and Russia independent of NATO, then NATO is already hollowed out and effectively dead. Membership in a security alliance who's strongest member is a loose cannon will not look so attractive.

If all of NATO approved this action I have to believe there would have been significant dissent and we would have heard something about the controversy by this point. But nada.

Either Biden just flushed NATO down the drain, or the sabotage on the pipelines has angles we don't know about yet. Or both.

69 posted on 10/06/2022 3:24:43 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: rrrod
As Trump’s National Security advisor I trust her more than the Putin cult.

You should have realized by now that Trump festoons himself with the bodies of his neocon/globalist enemies, without even tying up their limbs. He's like a giant orange crustacean which sticks the shells of lesser crustaceans to itself while they still live, their little appendages waving about helplessly. Until they finally fall off and get mangled underfoot.

Trump is a troll for the ages.

70 posted on 10/06/2022 3:42:26 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: es345st

What the outcome of the Swedish investigation is will be interesting. I don’t think the Swedes are as vulnerable to the Biden crime syndicate, as, say, the Germans are. The commies running Germany don’t give a hoot if their people freeze this winter. If they make too much noise they’ll just cut them off!


71 posted on 10/06/2022 4:12:42 PM PDT by gr8eman (Abortion! It's just a murderous ghoul thing!)
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To: MNDude

Dissolution of NATO and impeachment of Joe Biden in short order.

The U.S. Government has long since spent its credibility, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, with Russiagate, Covid, and a thousand other lesser debacles. No one will take our government’s word seriously for generations.


72 posted on 10/06/2022 4:15:39 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: sloanrb

Now that’s Haw Haw funny! One thing I have learned about commies is that they basically know NOTHING except their stupid ideas. Implying that they could handle large amounts of explosives at depth in the ocean is beyond laughable!


73 posted on 10/06/2022 4:25:09 PM PDT by gr8eman (Abortion! It's just a murderous ghoul thing!)
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To: JustaTech

LOL.....proved my point. You and the rest of the Putin cult can celebrate Trump not being in the White House. Don’t have to pretend to be pro Trump anymore.


74 posted on 10/06/2022 4:26:14 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: sloanrb

Maybe Green Peace.... possible I guess.


75 posted on 10/06/2022 4:28:00 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: rrrod
As Trump’s National Security advisor I trust her more than the Putin cult.

Can you name a single person that Trump hired who didn't turn out to be a complete imbecile, backstabber, or Deep State stooge?

Who did it is certainly up for debate but to place value in the words of ANY of Trump's advisors is laughable.

76 posted on 10/06/2022 4:33:49 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Tell It Right

Yours is the only realistic alternative to the theory that only Navy seals could pull this off IMO. Not that any other Navy is not trained for similar ops, but the facts are: 1. Biden and Nuland promised this, 2. We definitely have the capability for underseas ops, 3. Who does this benefit most?, 4. Who has been screaming “Russia, Russia Russia for the last 6 years, 5. Does anyone doubt that puppet master Obama would not give the order?


77 posted on 10/06/2022 5:53:34 PM PDT by gr8eman (Abortion! It's just a murderous ghoul thing!)
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To: higgmeister

Plus we need to note that the same people who have been lying to us all along are now insisting it was the Russians, even before any investigation is finished. Add to that the fact that both Biden and Nuland threatened to “end” the pipeline, and it’s well known in the military community that Biden blurts out classified material in order to aggrandize himself.

As for McFarland, she’s already been terrorized by the FBI once. Now she’s simply a Defence industry mouthpiece.


78 posted on 10/06/2022 6:43:06 PM PDT by binreadin
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To: rrrod

Reading isn’t your thing, is it?

What I described about Trump is his superpower.

You are not worthy.


79 posted on 10/06/2022 6:58:54 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: MNDude

how can anything be proven? this isn’t a playground squabble, this is sabotage of the european economy of the highest order. there is only one possible answer sweden can give. the truth has nothing to do with this.

I think everyone knows who had to be involved for this to have happened where it did, with the surveillance over and assets in that area, but we may all need to pretend something different.


80 posted on 10/06/2022 7:55:40 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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