Posted on 09/27/2022 12:00:23 PM PDT by rktman
(I'm just the poster, not the tester)
A YouTuber with 1.4 million followers attempted to tow a 1930 Ford Model A truck with his brand new 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck, but it ended in “a complete and total disaster.” “If a truck towing 3,500 pounds can’t even go 100 miles — that is ridiculously stupid,” Tyler “Hoovie” Hoover says in his video. “This truck can’t do normal truck things. You would be stopping every hour to recharge, which would take about 45 minutes a pop, and that is absolutely not practical.”
“This is my new 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck,” YouTuber Tyler “Hoovie” Hoover said in a video in which he tests the electric truck’s towing capabilities, which resulted in “a complete and total disaster.”
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“Assuming they do turn out to be viable on a mass scale and become the dominant technology...”
It’s never going to happen. Something about pesky molecular bonds and valence states. Right now, batteries have 1/13 of the specific energy density as hydrocarbon fuels. In other words, they have a LONG way to go and research has been going on for 40 years to make an improved EV battery. Until we invent unobtainium, we are going to be stuck at that 1/13 figure, have long charging times, and have lots of toxic waste.
Imagine being in a long line of traffic to get away from a hurricane like the one coming to Florida using a electric vehicle. You will run out of power in no time and no where to get more power.
It is way too expensive and does not have the range that the ads say plus you have to spend hours charging the truck every day or every other day and that is for short distances. Turn on the a/c or heat and the range drops even more! The battery will wear out and cost more then a gas vehicle to replace if one is even available. You will end up paying for the old electric vehicle while being forced to buy a new one.
This is like a cell phone that is sealed and you have to get someone to replace the battery for you at $100 when you use to do this yourself and put in a $10 battery in a few minutes.
No working on your car anymore. Democrats want to destroy car culture. Too much freedom.
Price starts at $47,000 and up to $97,000.
Meanwhile a gas truck or car takes 5 minutes to gas up and goes the actual hundreds of miles distance and again takes 5 minutes to gas up.
The used prices of cars and trucks are way up due to Cash for Clunkers that obama and Biden were involved with and the forced switchover to electric that the car companies are having to pass the cost onto YOU.
EV’s won’t be practical for anything other than in-town runabouts until there is a massive leap in battery technology. I don’t know when that leap will happen, it could be next year or it could be 100 years from now. Until that time they’re just a gimmick.
I am in the market for a new medium duty chassis and car carrier body. Freightliner makes a chassis that would work and is electric. Range? 137 miles. Minus load for emergency lighting and hydraulic pump to run the car carrier.
Ya. How about a Cummins with a 100 gallon fuel tank please?
Already happening.
Used to mean half ton carrying capacity but even that is no longer true. I have no idea what the capacities of the EV are but there are half ton f-150s that’ll tow 12,000 lb
Power and torque are not the problem with EVs. They can easily pull stuff.
The problem is the energy consumption/range and lack of ability to refuel in less than 5min.
Yep. I like to remind people that in the early 20th century New York City leaders were sweating bullets over what they were going to do with all the horse poop over the coming decades. A capitalist solved the problem for them, and the government didn’t even have to get involved.
That’s the right way to do it. Let human ingenuity and capitalist motivation solve it.
“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages” — Adam Smith
OK thanks, and you probably see where I was going with the question. He tried to pull 1.5 tons with a 0.5 ton payload truck. I am sure it can do it (gas or electric), but, with a lot more energy required.
I;m not sure LOL, but I think the Car Wizard is likely to be here but who knows. When I bought a car from him, his garage is as big as Leno’s.
ICE’s will go underground. Kids used to build them from scratch in shop class in the teens/20’s (inclusive of casting the block and other major parts and producing the ignition system). Given todays CnC capabilities if you push joe 6pack he’s going to go underground and produce combustion engines that run multi fuel types.
It will probably be another generation or more before the combination of surplus equipment and know how catch up with respect to duplicating electronics at the multiprocessor level.
Think that’s bad....
Check out public charging stations.
We have yet to see one equipped to handle vehicles with anything in tow.
Payload is basically what can be loaded in the bed over the rear axle. Towing capacity is usually much higher than payload. My friend has a 2019 F-150 with a 10k lb towing capacity behind a turbo charged V-6. His only issue was a pass in southern Colorado that gave him some overheating issues pulling his Jeep on a trailer (combined for about 8,500lbs).
The F-150 lighting should have no issues towing 3,000 lbs with its 7,700 lbs towing capacity.
This has been common knowledge among car people for some time now. Sadly, they are great vehicles, but most dislike being used to do heavy duty things.
There are still so many kinks to work out in the quest to electrify the auto industry. Hopefully they soon will create a practical “charge as you go” over the air system.
EXACTLY.
Well said. Excellent.
The desire of people to make a living and obtain prosperity is nearly as strong a point as biological urging (some would say it is the same thing, and more so) and we should encourage that. There was a great book Freedom's Forge: How American Business Produced Victory in World War II by Arthur Herman, and the key point was, in the run up to WWII when it was apparent that war was inevitable, we realized we needed to produce huge amounts of war material, and the goals were outlandish, the majority of industrialists scoffed at them, saying they were pie in the sky, and could never be reached.
William Knudsen was put in charge of getting things started long before we formally entered the war, and he had to convince the socialistic Roosevelt Administration to allow capitalist profit principles to drive it, not government mandates. He had to drag the Roosevelt Administration (full of Socialist and Communist sympathizers) kicking and screaming to do that, but the result of allowing the human desire to make money was an industrial engine never seen before, and in short notice, too.
You may appreciate an American Thinker article by Andrew Thomas that I just started a thread on: Running America on Imaginary Technology
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