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About those EV home charging systems...
self ^ | Sept. 21, 2022 | self

Posted on 09/21/2022 11:21:13 AM PDT by citizen

I've been musing re home EV charging. I have no expertise beyond common sense but there will surely be practical considerations involved...

Let's say we have a surburban family with mom, pop & children all driving EVs. How many can be charged at once? I am thinking a multi-EV charging system and the necessary electrical capacity to safely power it would both need to be heavy-duty and therefore quite expensive. ka-ching and then you get to pay the electric bill!

If this home only has a minimum power charging system requiring hours to charge a single vehicle, there would be EVs on that charger constantly - and squabbles about "I'M next!" Btw, the insurance companies will note these systems and surely raise their rates accordingly.

Scenario 2: Same residential home but Mom & Pop are travelling for a week. I can envision Junior or Miss Cutie Pie telling their friends "Sure, come on over! My parents are gone for the week, you can use our charger all you want." More ka-ching on the power bill.

On a concurrent note, I've read speculative posts on how once a residential neighborhood reaches sufficient EV saturation, the electrical distribution serving them will necessarily need to be strengthened to handle all the extra required capacity. Someone must pay up for these modifications.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: batteries; charging; ev; vanity
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To: TexasGator
NYC - Most people don’t own cars
Mr. Internet says "There are 1.9 million cars and SUVs in the city, and just 14,000 of them run on electricity"

If Future of Cars Is Electric, NYC Remains in Dark Ages www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/transit/2021/04/03/new-york-city-electric-cars

181 posted on 09/21/2022 2:30:59 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: dynoman

What is your point? I can’t read your mind.


182 posted on 09/21/2022 2:32:14 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

You’re right, I do not have the thread saved. But you should remember it, as you were the and discussing on the thread.


183 posted on 09/21/2022 2:32:57 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: TexasGator

The link you posted is for special low temperature lithium batteries. Tesla batteries need to be kept warm.


184 posted on 09/21/2022 2:33:41 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: citizen

“You’re right, I do not have the thread saved. But you should remember it, as you were the and discussing on the thread.”

I never saw it.


185 posted on 09/21/2022 2:34:43 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

Why would you try to read my mind?

Do some research and learn Teslas don’t have low temperature lithium batteries like the ones in the link you posted.


186 posted on 09/21/2022 2:35:47 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

GEEZ! Tesla is using LFP batteries

I guess you missed the first sentence ...

————————EV EV EV EV-———

When it comes to powering RVs, boats, golf cars and electric vehicles, or providing storage for solar power systems, RELiON’s lithium iron phosphate batteries offer several advantages over lead-acid batteries.


187 posted on 09/21/2022 2:35:54 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator
You were a big commenter and crowing about how many ICE car fires occurred compared to EVs. But if you don't remember, fine.

Maybe I can find the car magazine article...

188 posted on 09/21/2022 2:37:48 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: Fido969

“Too bad you can’t just swap the battery out like you can with a cordless drill.”

I have a relative who is a retired actual rocket scientist and that’s exactly the solution he says is needed. You don’t always charge, you stop at the battery exchange station for a few minutes and drive off. Your car comes with a battery from a rental service, you never own a battery so you don’t care about battery failure.


189 posted on 09/21/2022 2:38:08 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: Fido969

Forgot to add this also means a set of standardized batteries that fit all the various sizes of EVs. Also need specialized heavy-duty lifts, batteries are heavy.


190 posted on 09/21/2022 2:40:46 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: dynoman

“Do some research and learn Teslas don’t have low temperature lithium batteries like the ones in the link you posted.”

They do. Do your research.


191 posted on 09/21/2022 2:41:16 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: citizen
Sheet....I have a 1999 Ford..and a 1998 Honda.

I can afford different...But why?

192 posted on 09/21/2022 2:42:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: TexasGator

No they don’t. Not like the ones in your link.

https://youtu.be/ei4qiSrPAoI


193 posted on 09/21/2022 2:42:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: SaxxonWoods
"Forgot to add this also means a set of standardized batteries that fit all the various sizes of EVs. Also need specialized heavy-duty lifts, batteries are heavy."

Battery swap station


194 posted on 09/21/2022 2:44:00 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: GranTorino
"Wait till the rebels start disabling the grid."


195 posted on 09/21/2022 2:44:18 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: dynoman

Duh, that video is years old.


196 posted on 09/21/2022 2:45:15 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

Teslas have a battery temperature control system that circulates a liquid coolant. It’s also used to warm the battery in cold weather.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/battery-coolant-heater.245618/


197 posted on 09/21/2022 2:48:54 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

“Teslas have a battery temperature control system that circulates a liquid coolant. It’s also used to warm the battery in cold weather.”

Your point?


198 posted on 09/21/2022 2:50:43 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

Still true though. No reason to get cranky about it.


199 posted on 09/21/2022 2:50:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: TexasGator

Tesla batteries are not like the ones in the link you posted. They need to be kept warm in cold weather. They have a liquid temperature control loop for that purpose.

This isn’t rocket science.


200 posted on 09/21/2022 2:53:23 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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