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Tens of millions now able to apply for certificate of Sephardi Jewish ancestry
Jerusalem Post ^ | SEPTEMBER 18, 2022 | ZVIKA KLEIN

Posted on 09/18/2022 3:27:35 PM PDT by jjotto

Recent research has demonstrated that as many as 200 million people in the Americas and Europe have Jewish ancestry who were forcibly converted.

…The process for certification begins with filling out a relatively short questionnaire about a person’s background, clues about their Jewish heritage, like customs, family trees or items with a Jewish connection, and their reasons for believing they have Sephardi ancestry. This information will then be assessed by a team of experts and researchers who will determine if the applicant has enough information to be awarded the certificate...

…While the certificate will have no legal status, it is something that a growing number of those with Jewish ancestry have suggested would be an enormous sense of pride and identity for them...

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: jews; judaism; sefardim; spain
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To: jjotto
Jewish people should know by now, never put yourself on a list…
21 posted on 09/18/2022 4:14:31 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: papercliprippa

“Think how horrible the world would be without jews, why we wouldn’t have any lgbtq rallies or transsexual surgery or drag queens reading to our kids...”

Wow! We have a Jew hater in the woodpile !


22 posted on 09/18/2022 4:14:50 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: vladimir998

Actually, my family is among those being offered Spanish citizenship. Spain reached out to the family and most became Protestants, while some eventually became Catholics, in the New World.

So, spare me what it is that you claim to know, because it is not relevant. They were Jewish and were kicked out. They were heavily discriminated against in the Spanish colony they went to, but eventually became well-respected, despite not being allowed into the cities for many years.


23 posted on 09/18/2022 4:17:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-voting-record-in-u-s-presidential-elections

Actually THEY hate YOU, goy

>3/4 of Jews vote for democrats for 100 years straight
>”Waaahhhh stop blaming the jews for their free will when voting”


24 posted on 09/18/2022 4:19:53 PM PDT by papercliprippa
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To: ConservativeMind

I suppose you subscribe to the black legend surrounding Spanish history?

If you believe there was a systematic action to force conversions to Catholicism in Spain, you would be stating propaganda.


25 posted on 09/18/2022 4:21:45 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: odawg

Seemed reasonable until DNA became widely available.

With the rise of Islam, most Jews in Islamic territory were separated from most Jews in Christian territory, with the expected result that various customs and family lines became increasingly separated.

There were even smaller groups that developed mostly isolated from both, such as Krymchaks.


26 posted on 09/18/2022 4:22:20 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Bayard

Oh, DO TELL! Because Spain admitted that to my family’s ancestors and is offer us Spanish citizenship, as an apology for forced leave.

You don’t know squat!


27 posted on 09/18/2022 4:23:50 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: papercliprippa

"Think how horrible the world would be without jews, why we wouldn’t have any lgbtq rallies or transsexual surgery or drag queens reading to our kids..."

That, of course, is a crock of stinking anti-semitic manure.

One thing that is true, however, is, that if you didn't have Jews, you wouldn't have Jesus, and you wouldn't have a "New Testament", either, as Jesus and all the writers in the New Testament were Jewish.

28 posted on 09/18/2022 4:24:23 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Songcraft

The majority of Jews vote for the party that is pro-groomer and pro-trans

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-voting-record-in-u-s-presidential-elections


29 posted on 09/18/2022 4:28:36 PM PDT by papercliprippa
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To: ConservativeMind
Spain is primarily responsible for this mess. They force converted you to Catholic or you either had to leave to the New World or be killed. Most left to the New World. You’ve got to love the Catholic church’s nutball rulers.

They had just reconquered Spain from the Muslim occupiers.

Part of the issue was the feeling (with some justification) that the Jews would favor returning to Muslim rule and try to subvert the Christian rulers.

30 posted on 09/18/2022 4:29:18 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: odawg

Koestler claimed that Ashkenazi Jews were descended from the Kazars - a Turkic people. The Kazars had an 7th - 10th century empire in what is today European Russia, southern Ukraine, Crimea, and Kazakhstan. They interestingly enough converted in mass to Judaism. They felt it was a middle ground between Islam and Christianity. They were in imperial rivalry between the Byzantine Empire and various Muslim Caliphates It has been claimed that Ashkenazi Jews are the remnant of these people. DNA testing so far says no!


31 posted on 09/18/2022 4:30:11 PM PDT by Reily
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To: ConservativeMind

Catholics always feel compelled to defend the atrocities perpetrated by Catholicism.

They cannot handle the truth about Catholic history and so make excuses for it.


32 posted on 09/18/2022 4:30:54 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Adding

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_Jewish_culture_in_Spain


33 posted on 09/18/2022 4:31:43 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor; vladimir998; Bayard

That may be a legitimate reason for what was done, but we have two Free Republic Spanish Inquisition deniers saying it didn’t happen, when my own extended family is now being offered Spanish citizenship for being force expelled.

Of course, the family is much bigger now, after centuries in exile.


34 posted on 09/18/2022 4:34:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“So, spare me what it is that you claim to know, because it is not relevant.”

Why are you so defensive? Also, the point is that Jews were not killed just because they didn’t become Catholics. They were sometimes forced out of Spain (absolutely true) but not murdered by the Church or crown for not converting.

” They were Jewish and were kicked out. They were heavily discriminated against in the Spanish colony they went to, but eventually became well-respected, despite not being allowed into the cities for many years.”

And they weren’t killed. That just proves me right. Thanks for the assist.


35 posted on 09/18/2022 4:35:31 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“That may be a legitimate reason for what was done, but we have two Free Republic Spanish Inquisition deniers saying it didn’t happen, when my own extended family is now being offered Spanish citizenship for being force expelled.”

Who exactly is denying the existence of the Spanish Inquisition?


36 posted on 09/18/2022 4:36:50 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
I said:

“They force converted you to Catholic or you either had to leave to the New World or be killed.”

You said:

That's not really true.

You then say nothing about anyone leaving the country.

Thank you for proving yourself a liar.

37 posted on 09/18/2022 4:38:40 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: papercliprippa

Get off this board and go to stormfronyt you Nazi bastard.


38 posted on 09/18/2022 4:47:33 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: ConservativeMind

You didn’t read my comment. “Forced conversions”, not “deportations.”


39 posted on 09/18/2022 4:48:11 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: ConservativeMind

“You then say nothing about anyone leaving the country.”

I didn’t have to because that’s not what was an error on your part. What was your error was saying, “or be killed.”

They were not told to become Catholic or be executed.

“Thank you for proving yourself a liar.”

You’re the only one who posted falsehood.

First you posted that they would “be killed”. That was a falsehood.

Then you posted that “we have two Free Republic Spanish Inquisition deniers saying it didn’t happen”.

Since both I and bayard talked about the Spanish Inquisition we clearly were not denying its existence. Again, you posted a falsehood.

Why do you keep posting falsehoods and then accuse others of lying? Why are you so defensive that you seem to project onto others what you yourself are doing?


40 posted on 09/18/2022 4:50:11 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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