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Retaining election records from the 2020 election
American Thinker ^ | 18 Sep, 2022 | Charles Sullivan

Posted on 09/18/2022 4:52:22 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Did the number of people who voted in the November 3, 2020 general election equal the number of ballots cast? A recent research study by the America First Policy Institute (AFPI) says the records that would answer the question do not exist.

Records are supposed to be maintained to determine how many people have voted in an election and how many ballots have been cast. Section 20701 of the Civil Rights Act of 1960 provides that election officials have to keep all records of federal primary, special, or general elections for 22 months after the date of the election. Any willful violation can be punished by a fine of up to $1,000 or imprisonment for one year, or both. Section 20702 provides similar penalties for the willful theft, destruction, concealment, mutilation, or alteration of any such record. The purpose of these sections is to make it more difficult to hide election fraud.

How good of a job are election officials doing in retaining these records?

In 2021, the Voter Reference Foundation (VRF) began a study "to analyze the difference between total ballots cast in various states in the 2020 general election and the total number of voters who cast ballots in that election. Listed below are the discrepancies between the number of ballots cast and voters found from VRF's data from secretaries of state, which were obtained through public records requests. For the states marked with 'precinct-level data,' this indicates the statistics AFPI obtained from our public records requests to the precinct level, which the VRF did not have at the time of this review."

State | Discrepancy Between the Number of Ballots Cast and the Number of Voters ̶

Alaska | 3,326

Connecticut | 37,256

Colorado | 439

Florida | 158,319

Georgia | 52,703 Precinct level data

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: corruption; dirtiestelectionever; electionfraud; fakeelection; riggedelection; votefraud
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Idaho | 11,147

Michigan | 280,605

Montana | 1,896

Minnesota | 48,328

Nevada | 14,738 Precinct level data

New Jersey | 56,563

New Mexico | 3,844

North Carolina | 21,04

Ohio | 55,330 Precinct level data

Pennsylvania | 91,086 Precinct level data

Virginia | 63,607

1 posted on 09/18/2022 4:52:22 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
"The findings for Pennsylvania revealed that there were three precincts where the number of ballots cast in the November 2020 general election was more than double the number of voters recorded as voting."

In the 2012 elections, for Colorado there were 10 counties where the vote totals exceeded the number of registered voters. My county had 104% voter turnout which was the lowest of the 10. One county had 140% turnout!

2 posted on 09/18/2022 4:55:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
Solution:

Voter ID

In person voting only.....you can't show up, you don't vote....period. (Absentee voting available for Military Personnel only)

3 posted on 09/18/2022 5:06:06 AM PDT by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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“Cobb County, GA: 8.8% (Secretary of State data 0.68%)“

Unfortunately this reads like an incomplete draft not what I would expect from something called American Thinker. What does the SoS number even mean? Are they saying Cobb reported 8.8% error and the State reports 0.68% for Cobb instead?

Without clearly explaining the numbers thrown around in the piece, it’s not just worthless but undermines the point they are trying to make about data retention. Calling for digital records for voting is a terrible idea. Just as anyone competent in programming will tell you online voting is a terrible idea. Digitized versions of paper records is fine.

4 posted on 09/18/2022 5:13:08 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Giant meteor 2022!!!)
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To: MtnClimber

Keep in mind. Any un-auditable process is on it’s face fraudulent. If they are using the SURE system to compare actual counted ballots, yes there are more ballots counted in PA delco (25,000 ) and Montco (25,000) because the county election commissions do not update the SURE system. The reason they don’t accurately update the SURE system is to hide the fraud. Any un-auditable process is on it’s face fraudulent.


5 posted on 09/18/2022 5:28:43 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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“The findings for Pennsylvania revealed that there were three precincts where the number of ballots cast in the November 2020 general election was more than double the number of voters recorded as voting.” This is incorrect. if they are using the SURE system. Depending on the county there are a percentage of voters that are not updated. Delco is about 25,000 and Montco is about 25,000. They scan the signed books to update the SURE system and they do not have controls for these updates. They know they are missing updates to the SURE system. They reason they don’t care is when the Auditor General performed the audit of the SURE system, Kathy Bookvar advised the commissioners to not cooperate with the audit. Any un-auditable process anywhere is on it’s face fraudulent.


6 posted on 09/18/2022 5:33:31 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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Here is the link to the PA Auditor Generals report.
https://www.paauditor.gov/Media/Default/Reports/Department%20of%20State_SURE%20Audit%20Report%2012-19-19.pdf


7 posted on 09/18/2022 5:35:29 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: newzjunkey

digital records for voting is a terrible idea.>>> In PA The registered voter system is a digital system. Called the SURE system. It is by law supposed to be the baseline and updated accurately with who voted in each cycle. It is not. Here is the link to the PA Auditor Generals report. Then SOS Kathy Bookvar advised the Election commissioners to not cooperate with the required audit.
https://www.paauditor.gov/Media/Default/Reports/Department%20of%20State_SURE%20Audit%20Report%2012-19-19.pdf


8 posted on 09/18/2022 5:43:14 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: MtnClimber
My county had 104% voter turnout which was the lowest of the 10. One county had 140% turnout!

How can anyone say with a straight face that the 2020 election wasn't fraudulent? It was indeed because of corruption in law enforcement. I have been saying since the Clinton administration, when the southern churches were being set on fire, that if you 'have the cop and judge in your back pocket, you can run every red light in town with impunity!'

Revamping of our judicial system is long overdue!

9 posted on 09/18/2022 5:55:03 AM PDT by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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When I vote here in Florida, I tell them my name and address and hand them my passport.

They check if I’m in their electronic system, and if I voted already, and if not, they print an appropriate ballot.

The number of ballots cast should never exceed the number of people who requested and got a ballot.

It is possible for them to print out a replacement ballot if I mess up my ballot, but the ballot being replaced should be physically voided.

Replacement ballots can also be made during the counting process if a ballot can’t be scanned, but the original should be voided.

The numbers of replacement ballots by issue point and time should be investigated.


10 posted on 09/18/2022 6:15:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber
the records that would answer the question do not exist.

One felony count of destruction of records per vote record not kept.

11 posted on 09/18/2022 6:17:21 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: MtnClimber

Ballots should be of special paper stock so election thieves can’t just go to Office Depot and crank out phonies on home laser printers.


12 posted on 09/18/2022 6:20:31 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The elections are won in the Controlled City States that in fact control their states.

It doesn’t matter about voter ID or anything else in the City States where there is absolutely no election law in control of the eventual outcome.

Until the City States rot into oblivion, there is no way besides war the situation can be changed


13 posted on 09/18/2022 6:20:46 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: MtnClimber

Ballot printers might be given specific pixelation fault patterns.

This would allow ballots to be tied to specific printers and make ballots printed on say home laser printers detectable.


14 posted on 09/18/2022 6:23:41 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Cobb County, GA: 8.8% (Secretary of State data 0.68%)

We know what fat pig caused this. Stolen Elections have serious consequences.


15 posted on 09/18/2022 6:35:28 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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North Carolina | 21,04

Well that's interesting because I got this reply from My County's (Iredel) BOE...

RE: County Records Request of August 30, 2022, Reference # R000217-083022

Dear Xxxxx Xxxxxxx,

Iredell County, NC received a public records request from you on August 30, 2022. Your request mentioned:

CVR (Cast Vote Record) for the 11/03/2020 Election

Iredell County, NC has reviewed its files and has determined there are no responsive record(s) to your request. Cast vote records are not accessible to the general public and there is no pending investigation concerning the 2020 general election.

For questions or additional information, please reply to this email. }

Sincerely,

Iredell County

To monitor the progress or update this request please log into the Public Records Request Center

16 posted on 09/18/2022 6:37:30 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: MtnClimber
I just noticed this: North Carolina | 21,04

Is that number supposed to be 2,104 or 21,004 or 21,040 or 21,400 ???

17 posted on 09/18/2022 6:48:09 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: MtnClimber

Traditionally voters mark their ballots using ink pens.

It is my understanding that one company makes a system wherein voters make their selections electronically and then a ballot is neatly printed.

Such systems avoid the unreadable ballot problem, but such systems make election fraud easier to accomplish since ballots have no direct human imprint. No election thief has to hand mark say 5,000 fraudulent ballots, leaving hand prints on each one.

I should add that mail-in ballots using any system probably have multiple traces of human hand oils, or should. Think fingerprints. Mail-in ballots should also have been folded.

Hand oil marks might be detectable by UV light or chemical or heat treatment. Ballots from 2020 might be tested before they are destroyed.

Election thieves might have been careful not to leave hand oils on ballots, but then these ballots would stand out.


18 posted on 09/18/2022 6:48:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

The retention of all voting records should be at least 7 years - as is I believe the longest IRS requirement.


19 posted on 09/18/2022 6:48:26 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: MtnClimber

The 22 months is over with, unfortunately.


20 posted on 09/18/2022 6:55:16 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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