Posted on 09/15/2022 12:56:44 PM PDT by OneVike
You crack me up. Not in a good way.
“My theory is a lot simpler and can never be disproven - God created the universe.”
Conjecture. To become a theory you first have to develop a testable hypothesis.
The required test must be observable capable of proving the hypothesis wrong.
That’s what they’re doing. Unfortunately right now that puts them in the “now what” phase. There’s not a lot of good evidence for something else, so they gotta go back and review and look for new hotness.
You just described the scientific process.
New data sometimes means modified old or new theories replace I should say subsume old theories, repeat!
Too many people want science to be dogma!
The big bang theory..
First there was nothing..
Then it exploded?
Agreed - but lots of folks will hold onto a theory tightly in spite of the new data.
I believe that God created everything. The “how” is what science is trying to figure out, and ultimately leads to answers on how we can do things and create things ourselves.
A quote from Sir Isaac Newton:
From this fountain (the free will of God) it is those laws, which we call the laws of nature, have flowed, in which there appear many traces of the most wise contrivance, but not the least shadow of necessity. These therefore we must not seek from uncertain conjectures, but learn them from observations and experimental. He who is presumptuous enough to think that he can find the true principles of physics and the laws of natural things by the force alone of his own mind, and the internal light of his reason, must either suppose the world exists by necessity, and by the same necessity follows the law proposed; or if the order of Nature was established by the will of God, the [man] himself, a miserable reptile, can tell what was fittest to be done.
” Shouldn’t we know where the center of the universe is by simply working backwards from where the universe has expanded to by now?”
There is no center of the universe.
“My theory is a lot simpler and can never be disproven - God created the universe.”
The Big Bang Theory is essentially that. It is a theory accepted by scientists that the universe was created from nothing by something.
Science can’t say what that something was, but God is the only explanation that fits.
“I expect the World to be screwed up, so I like pointing out the ways it is”
No. You posted a baseless rant because you are confused about how the world works.
I don’t think anyone needs to apologize for a theory that is now being cast in doubt.
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Neither do I.
On the other hand , the entire public education system has been teaching it, AND evolution , as fact for decades now, I think it’s only right they all eat crow by the butt load.
( and change the name of that tv program to “ the big bang error” )
( and nothing would make me happier than to see Young Sheldon have his little butt bared and spanked every time he gets snotty with an adult /-)
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What is wrong is DECADES of stating, as if fact, that the Big Bang was true.
One should always state when a theory is a theory, and WHY it’s a theory. They never did, they covered up the reasons.
This is a problem with people (who are biased) vs the scientific method.
If you want to, you can see it everywhere - for example take a read on the history of Louis Pasteur, and how the founders of the theory of spontaneous generation derided and defamed him...In fact, I read his address to the Academy of Sciences - what he identified as problems with science are still at work today. (in fact, he addresses how science seems to prefer to go from one mis-truth to another rather than embracing an inconvenient (or unpopular) truth. We still observe this in strong force today. Witness the “Global Warming” now “Climate Change” Science for pay movement.
I actually posed this question to the cosmologist and author Sean Carroll who has written numerous peer reviewed scientific papers related to the early state of the Universe.
He was quite clear that none of the JWST images disprove or contradict the red shift evidence for the expansion of the Universe after 10E-30 seconds known as the “Big Bang”. This defines the start of Einstein’s General Relativity laws where all the photon energy that has ever been set the coefficients of the Hubble constant and the rate of expansion.
This article mistakenly conflates Alan Guth’s controversial hypothesis for the quantum inflationary period driven by the breaking of the inflaton symmetry prior to 10E-30 seconds with the actual beginning of the Standard Model (U0, SU(2), SU(3)) expansion.
As Dr. Carroll pointed out, all that the JWST images show is that the models of how the early Universe clumped may not be complete and need to be adjusted to reflect our new information.
The expansion of the Universe is well established with decades of peer reviewed scientific data. People who try to convince you otherwise are misleading you.
Indeed man will never know how everything in space works or the power that exist to make things happen.
Roll the dice
Mrs. Clinton just tweeted: “What difference at this point does it make?”
“Science can’t say what that something was, but God is the only explanation that fits.”
“God did it” is not an explanation. Nor does it invite scientific enquiry.
You’ll have proof one way or the other when you die and there’s an afterlife or nothing.
My thoughts exactly -- all that "dark matter" & "dark energy" which nobody could even define, much less find, and now this!
Clearly, science doesn't know what happened and it's time to quit inventing fairy tales (i.e., "big bang") to explain what they just don't understand.
False premise.
We've built a telescope that will help (is helping) people a whole lot smarter than you address questions they've been unable to answer with previous data.
Here is an idea, why not follow the evidence where it takes you,
If you think that's not what they do (are doing) you're even dumber than you look.
Seriously.
Grow up.
I totally agree. That said, because theories are only theories, science needs to remain skeptical and humble - characteristics that have unfortunately been in short supply.
“One should always state when a theory is a theory, and WHY it’s a theory. They never did, they covered up the reasons.
This is a problem with people (who are biased) vs the scientific method.”
*The scientist did and are doing. The problem is we have biased people that rant on subjects they don’t understand.
“What is wrong is DECADES of stating, as if fact, that the Big Bang was true.
One should always state when a theory is a theory, and WHY it’s a theory. They never did, they covered up the reasons.
This is a problem with people (who are biased) vs the scientific method.”
*Science can’t control the minds of non-scientist that try to simplify concepts they cannot understand.
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