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The Misleading Murderer You Know Lie, a Look at the Data
AmmoLand ^ | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/15/2022 6:42:10 AM PDT by marktwain

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Those who follow the debate on restoring Second Amendment rights have probably heard the other side proclaim some variant of:

“Most victims are murdered by people they know.”

The implication is defending yourself from a murderer is futile because there is no point in trying to defend yourself from a person who is close to you. This is a way of lying with statistics. The truth is far different.

Few Victims Are Murdered By Someone They Live With.

In 2013, this correspondent published an essay on the Misleading Murderer that you Know. The numbers were from 2010. This article uses numbers from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) for 2019.

The most accurate crime statistics involve homicides, particularly murders. The most easily solved homicides are murders of passion between intimates. The hardest homicides to solve are those with no connection between the murderer and the victim.

The largest category of victims in the FBI reports of victim relationships to their murderer is unknown. In 2019, those victims are 49% of the total. It is a huge number. Some of this is because FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) are often filed before an investigation is complete. As murders of passion among intimates are the easiest to solve, this means a much higher percentage of strangers and acquaintances fall into the unknown category when the UCR report is filled out.

The clearance rate for murder in 2019 was 59%. This means 41% were not solved. About 84% of the murderers who are unknown by the time of the UCR report remain unknown. Likely, most of the 16% solved are not intimate partner murders. Those that are are unlikely to have been living with their victim.

The clearance rate for murder in 2020 dropped to 54.4%.

So-Called Known Murderers


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Those who wish us disarmed deal know how to lie with statistics.
1 posted on 09/15/2022 6:42:10 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 09/15/2022 6:43:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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Very interesting. Thank you for posting this.


3 posted on 09/15/2022 6:54:54 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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The Democrats want to protect us from the horrors of every day life, like our cars. firearms, speech, the vote...because we are too stupid and/or evil to handle them, and they know better. The whole premise of totalitarianism is that ordinary people cannot be trusted with freedom.


4 posted on 09/15/2022 7:01:00 AM PDT by Spok (Homelessness will not be solved by incentivizing it; it must be made harder, not easier.)
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Good article. Thanks for posting.

They also like to pimp that lame excuse for not having a personal firearm: The attacker will just get it away from you and use it on you. Or if you keep a gun in your home: A burglar will find it and use it to shoot you when you come home.

And on and on. Luckily hardly anybody heeds this type of data - except for libwad commenters and sociologists and so on, trying to kill the 2nd amendment.

But gun sales continue to be brisk. :D #Capitalism


5 posted on 09/15/2022 7:04:34 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (Joe Biden is a Roman Catholic. So is Nancy Pelosi. So is Beto. Elder-killer Cuomo is catholic too.)
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Interesting pie chart. I am wondering how the 10% stranger is not combined with the 49% unknown.

Does that make them a known stranger which would probably be more accurately combined with to 20% in the acquaintance category?

6 posted on 09/15/2022 7:18:16 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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It’s likely that...

Unknown=Hillary


7 posted on 09/15/2022 7:24:17 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Hillary might also account for the categories “Stranger” and acquaintance.


8 posted on 09/15/2022 7:25:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Unknown does not mean that you do not know your murderer. It just means they do not have enough evidence to charge anyone.

In cases where they do, the murderer is more likely to be someone you know then a stranger.

Of course the idea that you can not defend yourself against someone you know is silly. Just because I may have met someone does not move them into the benign category.

9 posted on 09/15/2022 7:28:47 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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Unknown does not mean that you do not know your murderer. It just means they do not have enough evidence to charge anyone.

Yes, it means the authorities do no know who the murderer is, and therefore, they do not know the relationship of the murderer to the victim.

Murders where there is no connection between the murderer and the victim are usually the hardest to solve.

10 posted on 09/15/2022 7:37:28 AM PDT by marktwain
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I’m surprised the boyfriend/girlfriend is not higher.


11 posted on 09/15/2022 7:39:55 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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Yes, it means the authorities do no know who the murderer is, and therefore, they do not know the relationship of the murderer to the victim.

Actually they may have a pretty good idea who the murderer is but just no proof.

Without enough proof, no case.

Murders where there is no connection between the murderer and the victim are usually the hardest to solve.

Yes. Motive unknown makes it hard to know where to look.

12 posted on 09/15/2022 8:00:08 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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Nameless Gang Member #1 knows Nameless Gang Member #2 and that’s an “acquaintance”. These numbers are way off as UCR reports as much as 89% per year are gang/drug murders.


13 posted on 09/15/2022 9:50:25 AM PDT by spacewarp (Want freedom? Reject Dems.)
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Yup,
The ‘Gay’ community is prolific
in snuffing each other.
They can’t Think Straight.


14 posted on 09/15/2022 10:11:36 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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I see what you did there ..


15 posted on 09/16/2022 10:46:25 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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