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Millions Of Electric Car Batteries Retiring By 2030, Are We Ready To Deal With What Could Be Ticking Time Bombs?
The Epoch Times ^ | 09/09/2022 | Autumn Spreadmann

Posted on 09/09/2022 8:50:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The evolving landscape of lithium batteries is creating both contradictions and infrastructure hurdles that, according to some, need to be addressed sooner rather than later. A critical component of this is waste management.

More than 6 million electric vehicle (EV) battery packs will end up as scrap between now and 2030, and the recycling and reuse industries are racing to keep up. Some researchers project that recycling alone will be an over $12 billion industry by 2025.

U.S. President Joe Biden wants to make America a key player in the EV battery industry with a $3.1 billion spending package for automobile production to transition away from fossil fuels.

Much of this dream is pinned on a dusty stretch of soil in the Nevada high desert called Thacker Pass. It serves as the lynchpin in Biden’s push for increased domestic lithium production and more EV batteries. That’s because Thacker Pass is the largest hard rock lithium reserve in the United States.

Currently, China dominates the world’s EV battery production, with more than 80 percent of all units developed there.

Yet while Biden’s administration has its sights on the top spot for EV battery production, insiders are pointing out industry trapdoors.
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Thacker Pass, Nev., has the largest hard rock lithium reserve in the United States. (Lithium Americas)

Due to the potentially dangerous chemistry of lithium-ion EV units, concrete solutions are needed before an avalanche of dead battery packs ends up sitting around and waiting for recycling like ticking time bombs.

Those working on the sales end of the EV revolution tend to squirm or offer vague generalities when queried about what will happen to all of the old batteries.

The notion is quickly lumped into the very broad category of recycling or second life applications without offering any planning details.

Second life applications are an option for EV batteries no longer fit to power cars, but are suitable for alternative uses like energy storage.

And while that’s a start, the ultimate question lingers: How can America effectively deal with millions of completely spent, defective, or recalled EV units?

For people who specialize in hazardous waste, handling lithium batteries is a serious subject.

“For me, the biggest challenge I see, especially with second life, is on the safety side,” Scott Thibodeau at Veolia North America told The Epoch Times.

Thibodeau is the general manager of environmental services and solutions at Veolia North America, the second largest hazmat removal service in the United States.

He explained the chemistry of lithium-ion batteries is problematic since they can’t be dumped or recycled as easily as some other materials. This requires particular adaptations within the evolving EV industry to responsibly strip, package, and dispose of old units.

A ‘Thermal Runaway’

“The packing and logistics isn’t easy or cheap,” Thibodeau said.

Moreover, the batteries pose a significant fire hazard.

Tucked within the sprawling Chicago suburbs is the town of Morris, Illinois. Around midday on Jun. 29, 2021, the fire department received a call that a warehouse fire had broken out in a structure that many residents assumed was just an abandoned building. The call came from someone who claimed to be an employee for a company that was storing 200,000 pounds of batteries in the building, most of which were lithium.

Fire Chief Tracey Steffes told reporters that it was the first time his department had ever fought a lithium fire.

Mitigating traditional fires is done by using water or chemicals to cut off the supply of oxygen. However, lithium is unique in that it doesn’t require oxygen to burn. Once ignited, it creates what Thibodeau called a “thermal runaway,” which is incredibly challenging to control.

Once the battery goes into that state, stopping it is next to impossible,” Steffes said to reporters after the June 2021 fire.

Confused Morris residents were quickly evacuated from neighborhoods close to the blaze and spent hours in hotel rooms, watching smoke fill the sky, and fearing for the safety of their homes.

At that moment, residential Americans got an up close and personal look at lithium’s dark side.

It wasn’t the first incident where lithium battery storage turned catastrophic, and it likely won’t be the last.

Thibodeau says that while there’s no easy way to put out a lithium battery fire, having people properly trained on how to reduce the fire risks, combined with proper handling and storage, is a huge step in the right direction.

Recycling EV batteries poses another significant hurdle. That’s due to a trifecta of complications including expense, existing capacity to handle demand, and the simple fact these batteries aren’t easy to recycle.

“Currently, less than five percent of lithium batteries that reach the end of their lifespan are recycled,” a spokesperson for the carbon accounting group Greenly told The Epoch Times.

The representative for Greenly went on to explain that though the potential for ramped up recycling exists, it’s not possible with lithium-ion batteries until they reach the end of their lifespan.

“The industry hasn’t obtained the knowledge or experience necessary to learn how to recycle these batteries or maximize their usage beforehand,” they added.

This is where second life applications come in, which can buy a non-defective EV battery an extra 10 years of life. It also essentially buys the burgeoning recycling companies time to catch up.

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KEYWORDS: automotive; batteries; electriccar; epicfailure; ev
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To: Deaf Smith

Leave them outside hospitals in California so they have at least some source of power in the upcoming blackouts due to the same.


21 posted on 09/09/2022 9:23:12 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: Paladin2

That’s like 18 feet!


22 posted on 09/09/2022 9:23:46 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: blackdog

Buy more Al foil.


23 posted on 09/09/2022 9:24:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: blackdog

I’ve found, so far, that a 264 ft social distance [1/20 mi.] has been working out OK.


24 posted on 09/09/2022 9:25:46 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Rodd OB

Yes, send them to Mordor


25 posted on 09/09/2022 9:26:58 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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To: blackdog

http://math.bu.edu/people/horacio/tutorials/cohen_01.pdf

See ~ pg. #2; Figure #1.


26 posted on 09/09/2022 9:29:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

https://ceptech.net/why-emi-rfi-shielding-techniques-important-ev-hybrid-vehicles/


27 posted on 09/09/2022 9:30:45 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: SeekAndFind

No.

This is a disaster just around the corner. In more ways than one. The number of people who will be caught flat footed without functioning cars and not able to afford to replace the batteries will be enormous.

Of course, the politicians will be there to offer programs to help “those in need” ...


28 posted on 09/09/2022 9:34:31 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

sell-em to the solar crowd for storage


29 posted on 09/09/2022 9:37:12 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: blackdog
Batteries are dead.

Only good for Burning Man with the thousand drones flying overhead.

30 posted on 09/09/2022 9:39:35 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Deaf Smith

BM has a drone Air Traffic Control operation?


31 posted on 09/09/2022 9:41:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
I used to do design certification testing in shielded rooms for the DOD for everything, including bombs. An EV as sold to the public wouldn't be allowed within a mile of an aircraft carrier or ground based weapons system. The battery on a JDAM bomb has a bunch of filters, chokes, and shielding of wire and components due to the noise screwing with the guidance system. Those wires are only 20AWG.

By the time a $70K EV could be made to comply with MIL 461 or TEMPEST, it would cost $7 Million. And thus the $600 toilet seats. (Can withstand explosive impact without becoming a projectile inside the ship)

32 posted on 09/09/2022 9:43:35 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: Paladin2

Check the vids for Burning Man 2022 that just concluded.


33 posted on 09/09/2022 9:44:29 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

34 posted on 09/09/2022 9:50:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Dr. Sivana
If there is money to be made by recycling the batteries, recyclers will be generated to meet the challenge.

If...

...except the cost to recycle makes it prohibitive.

https://catalyst.independent.org/2021/11/23/recycling-doesnt-work/

35 posted on 09/09/2022 9:52:54 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: SeekAndFind

Meanwhile, the ecofreaks are trying their hardest to shut down any lithium mining in Nevada before it even starts.


36 posted on 09/09/2022 9:56:22 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Disband and Defund the putrid FBI. America does not need an out of control Gestapo)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.redwoodmaterials.com/


37 posted on 09/09/2022 9:57:20 PM PDT by Pelham (World War III is entering on cat's feet. )
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To: decal

Cuz Musk wants a subsidy to make a batt dump on Mars...

Mess is the mother of...government finance.


38 posted on 09/09/2022 10:00:57 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: max americana

How racist!


39 posted on 09/09/2022 10:01:40 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: blackdog

You get the cantilever rumble seat then. :)


40 posted on 09/09/2022 10:04:27 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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