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Zimbabweans hit by 257% inflation: Will gold coins help?
AP ^ | 8/18/22

Posted on 08/19/2022 3:47:18 AM PDT by EBH

HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) — After working as an overnight security guard at a church in Harare’s impoverished Mabvuku township, Jeffrey Carlos rushes home to help his wife fetch water to sell.

Prolonged water shortages mean most residents of the capital city of more than 2.4 million must source their own water. Carlos is lucky because the property he rents has a well and his family can haul up buckets of water to sell to neighbors.

“This is our gold,” he says of the well water.

“If we are lucky, we can sell up to 12 buckets of water (per day) for $2,” said the 50-year-old father of three. That’s about enough money to buy the family’s food for the day, he said.

Rising prices and a fast depreciating currency have pushed many Zimbabweans to the brink, reminding people of when the southern African country faced world-record inflation of 5 billion% in 2008. With inflation jumping from 191% in June to 257% in July, many Zimbabweans fear the country is heading back to such hyperinflation.

o prevent a return of such economic disaster, President Emmerson Mnangagwa’s government last month took the unprecedented step of introducing gold coins as legal tender. The country’s central bank, the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe, said that because the value of the one-ounce, 22-carat coins would be determined by the international price of gold they will help tame the runaway inflation and stabilize the nation’s currency

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To: Doctor Congo

$10E15 would fit.


21 posted on 08/19/2022 4:19:28 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: Travis McGee

I understand the benefit of physical possession, but I’ve been told for years that gold/silver is a “store of wealth” So wouldn’t it’s value be sensitive to inflation, adjusting up and down related to it? (I already know this doesn’t happen, but I don’t understand why)


22 posted on 08/19/2022 4:20:12 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Gold and silver are a store of value because a govt via its central banks can’t just create more out of thin air.

It’s also compact, divisible, uniform across the world, does not rot or degrade, etc.

Every time a govt “issues” more “currency” out of thin air (using central bank debt) that currency’s value is inflated away. America is on the same path as Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe is just a more radical example.


23 posted on 08/19/2022 4:26:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JonPreston

I think you’re still thinking in terms of dollars for gold, or dollars for silver. There’s a finite amount of gold or silver, so it retains value when paper dollars lose theirs.

A better way to think of it is in terms of hard goods. So, rather than gold for inflated dollars, think gold (or silver) for something tangible, like bread. So, just to throw numbers out, we’ll say that a loaf of bread is worth one ounce of silver, or ten paper dollars. It follows that an ounce of silver is worth ten dollars. However, a madman seizes the presses, and makes lots more paper dollars. Now it takes a hundred dollars to buy that loaf of bread, since with so many more of them, they have less value. However, the silver is still a finite commodity, like the bread, so an ounce of silver still gets you a loaf of bread, or you could get a hundred dollars for it. The amount of silver and bread did not rise, so their value in proportion to each other remained the same.

Does that explain any better?


24 posted on 08/19/2022 4:35:09 AM PDT by ferret_airlift
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To: EBH

Zimbabwe virtually stays in super high inflation to hyperinflation. Reminder: Zimbabwe hyperinflation of 2007-2008.


25 posted on 08/19/2022 4:35:40 AM PDT by cranked
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To: PIF

Gold would only be hoarded by those who have the means to purchase it in the first place. Sure it is doomsday money, but the advantages gold presents are still highly asymmetrical.

When any country finds itself in a hole, stop digging. Or at least turn the shovels to cutting a ramp so it is possible to walk back up out of the hole.


26 posted on 08/19/2022 4:44:54 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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To: Travis McGee; ferret_airlift

Thanks for these answers.


27 posted on 08/19/2022 4:48:41 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: EBH

28 posted on 08/19/2022 4:57:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: EBH

Zimbabweans... Lol... Why doesn’t that sound grammar correct?


29 posted on 08/19/2022 4:59:15 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: alloysteel

How does one have means to purchase gold with a totally worthless currency, a currency only recognized inside their country?


30 posted on 08/19/2022 4:59:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: EBH
Be Europe: Reclaim the land from the sea using pre mechanized medieval methods and dominate world trade.

Be Africa: 600 million acres of uncultivated arable land, 60% of the global total. Starve. Flee to Europe by the millions for food.

31 posted on 08/19/2022 5:06:00 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: EBH
Good thing these Zimbabweans aren't living in the U.S.A. Otherwise they would be discriminated against, persecuted and otherwise mistreated.

Maybe we should offer all the oppressed people of African descent in our country the opportunity to emigrate back to their ancestral lands and pay their way. It would be the humanitarian thing to do.

32 posted on 08/19/2022 5:10:00 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (3,860,287 users on Truth Social)
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To: nonliberal
It's said that up until about 40 years ago Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa.
33 posted on 08/19/2022 5:10:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: SamAdams76
Having traveled rather extensively in Africa I've had contact with many Africans. IMO every one of them I've met would,if given a Green Card,kiss the ground upon arrival and then proceed to be better...*far* better...Americans than most of our "African Americans".

And I mean better in every way.

34 posted on 08/19/2022 5:13:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: JonPreston

A gold coin is very expensive to hold in Zimbabwe because you need to hire a private army to protect it.

;-)


35 posted on 08/19/2022 5:18:56 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Good post—folks who have relatives in Nigeria tell me that young Nigerian children have two main goals in life:

Either join the government to flee to Western Europe or the US.

What is important is why they believe this.

The average citizen of Nigeria is subject to looting from the government and/or local gangs/rebels.

Therefore they have to hide any wealth—even from their neighbors.

It is a horrible way to live—and it is what the globalists want to happen to us.


36 posted on 08/19/2022 5:22:23 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: EBH

Allowing citizens to own gold will not curb inflation, unless the government also fixes the price of gold, and makes its paper currency redeemable in gold at the fixed price.

Making its paper currency redeemable for gold at a fixed price will stop inflation by forcing the government to choose between limiting the paper money supply, or quickly depleting it’s gold reserves.

Note: The same strategy could theoretically be applied without gold - the government could establish a market price index of various commodities, and expand or shrink the money supply to keep that index from falling or rising.

Governments have zero incentive to control inflation though, and must be forced to do so by the people - which is why paper money must be redeemable for some tangible commodity.


37 posted on 08/19/2022 5:25:00 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: JonPreston

Any time.


38 posted on 08/19/2022 5:37:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SamAdams76

Seconded.


39 posted on 08/19/2022 5:42:19 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: PIF

The currency is tied to the value of gold. That ought to stabilize inflation because of the set value of gold.


40 posted on 08/19/2022 5:42:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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