Lose a STONE (14 pounds) in three months by eating all your meals between 7am and 3pm, says study

daily mail ^ | 8/9/2022 | john ely

[RummyChick]

You can lose up to a stone in three months by eating all your meals between 7am and 3pm, a study suggests.

Obese adults who ate within an eight-hour window lost 14lbs (6.3kg) in 14 weeks, on average, compared to 9lbs (4kg) in a control group who ate when they wanted.

Both cohorts were given expert advice on how to follow a diet and what foods to eat, and put on the same exercise regime.

It suggests limiting the amount of time we spend eating limits the amount of calories we consume by default, according to the researchers.

Fasted people in the study were found to consume the equivalent of a Mars bar less food per day compared to the non-fasted group.

Intermittent fasting has been a trendy diet plan favoured by Hollywood stars like Jennifer Aniston, Benedict Cumberbatch and Nicole Kidman for years.

As well as weight loss, the practice has been linked to longevity and a reduced risk of age-related diseases.

[RoosterRedux]

Good advice. I notice if I stop before I’m full, my hunger goes away in a few minutes.

[Mr Rogers]

“But there are a lot of studies out their that say IF doesn’t help lose weight more than eating less.”

Think it depends on WHY one is overweight. Some are overweight simply from eating too much - and they will lose weight simply by reducing intake.

Others are insulin resistant, often due to eating too many simple carbs, too often and for too many years. Simply cutting intake for us won’t necessarily remove fat because the body will start converting muscle to energy while there is still fat left to burn. I’m a 5’8” male. I once dieted down to 120 lbs using a low fat, low calorie diet - AND still had a thick layer of fat on my tummy. And felt weak as a kitten.

IF & Keto have allowed me to lose FAT. Over a period of 5 years, my initial 30 lb loss has been followed by increasing muscle and decreasing belly fat. In my 60s, I don’t have a 6-pack...but I can see where it is. Something I had never done in 45 years of yo-yo dieting.

I’ve long since stopped caring about what nutrition studies say. Most of them are total garbage anyways in how they are set up and one sees, frequently, where abstracts are written that are contradicted in the text of the full study. The people pushing an all plant diet are as dishonest as any liberal!

What matters to me is what I can see in my own body - the best muscle to fat ratio I’ve ever had in my life! I FEEL vastly better physically at 65 than 25. That is the study I care about...

[HYPOCRACY]

Godspeed. It’s an awful disease. Mine came on in my 40s and was out of control. Pretty sure I can beat it if I lose another 20lbs. I’m not fat. 6’ 200lbs but should be about 185.

It also came on strong when I lost my job. I’m fixing that. I’m gonna own an investment bank.

[HYPOCRACY]

That’s all that matters brother. Like you said. What works for you. I try Keto here and there but I like burgers and pizza too much.

I’m more than happy to do a 3 day water fast or a week long one, once or twice a year.

Want to do a 3 week one and gearing myself up for it. To me it’s all about seeing some significant change after a week. Saw not a lot.

So I’ll try 2 and see what happens.

[RummyChick]

I have several things linked to insulin resistance. A Dr told me insulin resistance and fatty liver disease create a vicious cycle.

My liver enzymes are fine but I pushed for a Fibroscan (for other reasons)and that is what showed the problem..

so just be aware that normal liver enzymes does not mean you are in the clear ..especially if you are overweight

[gitmo]

That’s all that matters brother. Like you said. What works for you. I try Keto here and there but I like burgers and pizza too much.

I’m more than happy to do a 3 day water fast or a week long one, once or twice a year.

That's me. My wife does keto, but I'd rather do a M-F fast and eat on weekends. It's much easier.

[Eccl 10:2]

“I have a genome study that gives me a trait of salty snacks.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Wow. I had no idea there was such a thing, either a trait of salty snacks or a genome study to spot it.

I bet I have it too. Salty snacks are definitely my bane.

What genome study did you use, if I may ask?

Thanks!

[livius]

Actually, not eating much in the evening has always been the key to maintaining a healthy weight. Once upon a time, the mid-day meal was the big meal for most people. Evenings were for drinking and snacking.

This changed with the arrival of the modern 9-5 work schedule.

I go to Spain a lot and people there are pretty normal in their weight...even though they eat all day. The family meal used to be around 2:00 pm, and most people didn’t eat a lot at night. Lunch still begins around 1 or 2 pm in Spain, and can go to 3 or 4. (Used to be longer, but the EU complained.)

As for dinner: wine, beer, tapas - a healthy diet! The Spanish are nibblers.

When they go out to dinner in late-night places like Madrid, they may eat a lot...but actually plates are shared, and it’s only with the arrival of Americans and Brits that the concept of the big plated individual meal has appeared in Spain. (This is true in Italy as well.)

So overall, just eat big at mid-day, do some nibbling in the evening (but no pints of ice-cream!) and you’ll lose weight and probably sleep better too.

[RummyChick]

I cant remember which one pulled it up

Here is how it has gone for me.

I used a fake name and got a 23andme genetic health test. it’s been pretty spot on but it is not good enough. You can upload the data to various sites. i had no problem with that because I used a fake name. So places like Nebula and Genomelink will give you a free analysis and also link you to studies etc.

I also paid $12 to Prometheus to get their take which has been helpful.

these are the cheap ways

But because I have rare things wrong, difficult to diagnose and am in diagnoses hell I paid for the whole genome testing done by Nebula. Waiting on those results. They make you pay for a subscription but you can get a 3 month one and then abscond with your sequencing data. I went ahead and paid for the lifetime but I am going to need it to direct the testing

So for example, if I have a SNP that fits with my family history and with my symptoms I am going to push for a test. This is how I found out that I have two autoimmune disorders.

The first Rheum. doctor didnt find them and made me feel like it was all in my head.

Screw that...I am finding the answer. And I did. Partially

[RummyChick]

so here is an example from one of the trait sites and this one is correct

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You tend to have a higher level of folate in blood serum
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You tend to have an intermediate level of folate in blood serum
100%
You tend to have a lower level of folate in blood serum

Reference papers and your DNA
Genome-wide association study of vitamin B6, vitamin B12, folate, and homocysteine blood concentrations.
Tanaka T et al. 2009
To investigate genetic factors that affect circulating vitamin B6, vitamin B12, folate and homocysteine, a genome-wide association meta-analysis was conducted in large samples from three cohorts: InCHIANTI, SardiNIA and BLSA. The top loci were replicated in an independent sample from the Progetto Nutrizione study. For folate concentration, the most significant SNP is located ~100 kb from MTHFR and the second SNP is in the 30 untranslated region of the prickle-like homolog 2 gene, PRICKLE2.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19303062

[HYPOCRACY]

If they have your DNA they can easily find out who you are.

[RummyChick]

here is an example of 23andme

for this they used a statistical model and a curated model

They showed me the variants. Put them in circles..the bigger the circle the bigger the effect. Biggest circle was on Chromosome 19

they determined I favored Salty snacks..and I do

“Genetics
Like almost all traits, taste preference is partly shaped by genetics, and partly by environment. 23andMe research identified 43 genetic markers where people can have variants that make them more likely to prefer sweet snacks or salty/savory snacks. A few of these 43 genetic markers are in or near genes involved in brain development or function (like CDH8, ELAVL2, AUTS2, and KCNA3). But most are near genes with a broad range of functions, perhaps reflecting the complexity of this trait.”

[euram]

When I was in high school they asked if we wanted to sign up and get a foreign penpal. I got a girl from Scotland. Her first letter to me said that she had short brown hair, and brown eyes, and weighed 8 stones. I looked it up and figured that she weighed about 112 lbs, but I thought I’d impress her with my sense of humor. I asked her if those were small stones or big stones, and told her I weighed about half a boulder. Surprisingly enough, I never heard from her again.

[RummyChick]

probably very true. But at this point I dont care. I have to find out what is wrong with me.

23andme links you up to all the people you are related to that have tested with them. That might freak people out but mine shows up with a fake name.

My brother contacted me and said who the hell is that..I have a relative I didnt know about...I just laughed and said I dont know..then told him it was me.

[fuzzylogic]

This just sounds like the “16 hour fasting” routine with low carbs & sugar. Have one or two meals between an 8hr period rich in protein, healthy fats, and veggies. No snacks. It forces the body to burn fat, not sugar...and once you’re body is adjusted you don’t even feel hungry.

[x]

And sleeping from 4 PM to 6 AM?

[glorgau]

Start reading ingredient labels when grocery shopping. That will kill most anybody’s appetite.

[RummyChick]

here is another interesting one ..dont know how to tell if it is spot on for me or not

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You have a stronger tendency to have more subcutaneous adipose tissue than visceral adipose tissue
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You tend to have similar levels of visceral adipose tissue and subcutaneous adipose tissue
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You have a stronger tendency to have more visceral adipose tissue than subcutaneous adipose tissue

Multiethnic genome-wide meta-analysis of ectopic fat depots identifies loci associated with adipocyte development and differentiation.
Chu AY et al. 2017
To gain new insights into the underlying genetics of body fat distribution, sample-size-weighted fixed-effects genome-wide association meta-analyses were performed in men and women of European, African, Hispanic and Chinese ancestry. In total, seven new loci were identified associated with ectopic-fat traits. UBE2E2 was associated with VAT/SAT (subcutaneous and visceral adipose tissue) ratio and two known body fat distribution loci, LYPLAL1 and LY86, were also associated with VAT/SAT ratio at genome-wide significance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27918534
Result Scientific Reliability Chrom SNP ID Population
TT Tend to get more subcutaneous adipose tissue chr3 rs7374732 European, African

[fidelis]

Been on intermittent fasting for 6 years. I have psoriasis. I’ve done 7 days water fast and it helps but it’s more of a stress induced condition from my experience.

My psoriasis is definitely stress induced. When I first started getting it about 10 years ago, it was awful— large patches everywhere. Dermatologist and me tried a few things and settled on Otezla and enstilar, and then a topical ointment. Got it fairly under control, but it wasn’t until I retired from my stressful job that it has really diminished. I have a few stubborn spots here and there but for the most part it’s almost gone— nothing like the early days. I try to avoid nightshades, drink lots of water, load up on anti-oxidants, and get a lot of sunlight (easy in Arizona). But the biggest factor was the stress.

[RummyChick]

so for those that wonder nature versus nuture (or nature AND nurture) there is this trait. However scientific reliability of this one is one star.

Impact of Traumatic Life Events on Psychotic-like Experiences

Reference papers and your DNA
The Impact of the FKBP5 Gene Polymorphisms on the Relationship between Traumatic Life Events and Psychotic-Like Experiences in Non-Clinical Adults.
Stramecki F et al. 2021
Researchers investigated the influence of the six polymorphisms in the FKBP5 gene on the association between the level of psychotic-like experiences (PLEs) and lifetime exposure to stress.The studied polymorphisms included rs1360780 and rs9296158. The sample included 535 individuals aged 18 to 30 (23.4 3.0 years) recruited from university students of various faculties. The FKBP5 gene was selected for the study because the gene contains several polymorphic sites that may affect stress response, and thus a risk of psychosis. The Traumatic Events Checklist (TEC) was implemented to assess a history of TLEs such as emotional neglect, emotional abuse, physical abuse and sexual abuse. Physical abuse (PA) and bullying was evaluated with the item: “When you were a child or teenager, did you experience physical abuse (e.g., tormenting, beating, psychically hurting) from your parents, brothers or sisters or peers?”. For screening for psychosis risk and the presence of PLEs, the self-report questionnaire PQ-16 was implemented. It consists of nine items of the perceptual abnormalities/hallucinations subscale, five items referring to unusual thought content/delusional ideas/paranoia, and two negative symptoms. The level of distress associated with experiencing PLEs (the PQ-16 score) was used as the outcome variable. Among the rs1360780 CC homozygotes, a history of PA was associated with significantly higher PQ-16 scores compared with CC homozygotes without a history of PA. This difference was not significant in the rs1360780 T allele carriers. Similar findings were observed for the rs9296158 polymorphism. Indeed, a history of PA was associated with significantly higher PQ-16 scores in the rs9296158 GG homozygotes compared with GG homozygotes without a history of PA, and the trend was not significant in the rs9296158 A allele carriers.

www.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33925151/