[ConservativeMind]

There continues to be conflicting perspectives on what is the apparent concern with TMAO.

This research dovetails with prior research from the Cleveland Clinic, which found TMAO-producing bacteria were temporarily silenced when diners ate their red meat with olive oil or balsamic vinegar.

[ConservativeMind]

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I quit listening to dietary “research” when the government said eggs and butter were bad but margarine (trans-fats) were good.

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Propaganda sanctioned eat more bugs, 3D printed food, synthetic food, etc.

[logi_cal869]

“Does eating more red and processed meat raise the risk of cardiovascular disease?”

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The question biases the outcome, and their citations of research criteria validates that statement.

Bad science. More ‘M&M’.

[indthkr]

gut-microbiome - bump for later....

[moonhawk]

I would think they would attempt to distinguish red meat from processed meat. Not the same thing.

[noiseman]

After what we’ve been through with Fauci, the CDC, FDA, etc., don’t ever forget the editorial written a few years ago by none other than the editor of the New England Journal of Medicine. He wrote it because he was so fed up with fraud and incompetence in the medical research bureaucracy. His primary claim was that 95% of ALL medical “research” papers are WRONG. He said that the rush to publish first in order to chase lucrative research grants had thoroughly corrupted the entire process, and that most conclusions were simply incorrect. Which likely explains things like claims that certain foods will kill you, only to have a later study conclude that these “killer foods” are actually health foods, followed a few years later by another reversal to “nope, gonna kill ‘ya”, and back again, ad infinitum.

At this point, my default position is to be extremely skeptical of any claim made by the medical establishment. Recent history, if nothing else, has proven them to be incredibly untrustworthy and self-serving.

[Gene Eric]

My appetite for read meat has declined in my ‘mature’ years. It’s not that I don’t enjoy it any more, but I’m no longer craving it.

Another interesting research find.

Despite the decades of orthogonal cause & effect dietary science, the consumer may eventually learn about (and appreciate) enjoyable, non-destructive sustenance. And that can certainly include read meat, eggs, butter, dairy...

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[Nifster]

But why did they say red meats and processed meats? Fundamentally they’re talking about beef and I suppose salami and pepperoni. They did not include bison or pork in the study

If one is luck ng on a tight budget chicken is consumed much more frequently than beef

What I take away is that I can forget about cholesterol and Eat More Chikin!!!!

[PrairieLady2]

This is a split hoofed animal that chews the cud. It’s good for food. The problem with it is in the finishing. They are finished (fed) foods to make fat and increase weight.

The study is flawed.

What makes colesterol problems is starches. Eliminate starches and the body changes its chemistry to use the over abundant fats as energy.

Also, if vitamin C is too low, the body will utilize calcium for blood vessel repair. Viola..atherosclerosis is born.

Funny how we don’t see many studies on the effects of junk food.

There is an agenda here with red meat.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

You can’t believe anything they say anymore.

[Cats1]

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[Paal Gulli]

To paraphrase George Carlin,* “Steak is worth cancer.”

If grim death himself were serving me my chatueabriand, my response would be to ask, “Please pass the Bearnaise sauce.”

* Carlin originally said it of bacon, but both are equally true.