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Posted on 07/29/2022 7:04:34 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
The steamship Marion, from New-Orleans on the 20th inst., arrived at this port yesterday. Her advices are four days later than previously received.
The Marion brought mails from the United States steamers Mississippi, Pensacola, Cayuga and Itcaas, at New Orleans, and San Jacinto, (flagship,) Huntsville and Mercedita at Key West.
The health of New-Orleans was still very good. Gen. BUTLER has 2,000 men cleaning the streets. The city is quiet, although considerable excitement occurred on the arrival of the news of the exploits of the C.S. ram Arkansas.
Col. T.B. THORPE, of the Custom-house at New-Orleans, sends per Marion a pair of pelicans (Louisiana State emblem) as a present to the Central Park.
OUR NEW-ORLEANS CORRESPONDENCE.
Fashionable Drinking-Saloon-The Consequences of Not Taking the Oath of Allegiance-A Rebellious Female-New-Englanders the Ringleaders in Rebellion.
NEW-ORLEANS, Saturday, July 19, 1862.
HORT's drinking-saloon was one of the most fashionable in the city. The proprietor, the son of the famous New-York hotel-keeper of that name, kept fast horses, a fashionable private residence, and received his income by the hundred dollars the day. in an evil hour secession seized upon the land, and HOLT was induced to issue shinplasters. His reputation for wealth and business profits made them popular, and inducements were held out for immense issues. Gradually, however, business fell off, and HOLT, when Gen. BUTLER ordered that the personal paper money should be redeemed by bank notes, found it impossible to comply with Gen. BUTLER's proclamation, and this inability was increased by the fact that he had taken the oath of allegiance, and his regular customers refused therefore to be comforted at his house. The finale was that HOLT was sold out, and his establishment, repainted and restocked,
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From New-Orleans: The Rebels Still Inclined to be Troublesome – 2
The Army of Virginia: Important and Successful Cavalry Expedition – 2-3
News from Washington: A Busy Day Among the War Managers – 3
Editorial: The Position of Affairs – 3-4
Editorial: The Intervention Scare Again – 4-5
Editorial: Civil Engineers and the War – 5
Motion in the Army of Virginia – 5
Military Use of the Telegraph – 5
Missouri and the President’s Emancipation – 5-6
Gen. Pope’s Latest Allocution – 6
Cotton from India – 6
Artificial Limbs for Maimed Soldiers – 6
Isn’t this about the time when Butler issued a decree along the lines of ‘any woman showing disrespect to a Union soldier will be arrested for prostitution?’
I think that happened about a month ago. I’ll search it out later.
May 15. => https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2012/01/general-orders-no-28.html
Odd how the rebels remained troublesome even after that stern warning.
Today and tomorrow, Aug.29-30 marks the battle of Richmond, Kentucky in 1862 and per Wikipedia, “it was one of the most complete Confederate victories in the war by Major General Edmund Kirby Smith against Union major general William “Bull” Nelson’s forces, which were defending the town. It was the first major battle in the Kentucky Campaign.”
“Nelson and some of his men escaped, but ... the way north towards Lexington and Frankfort was open.[6]”
If the Confederates had won the war, it would’ve been considered one of the major victories because, as “Civil War historian Shelby Foote remarked that Smith “accomplished in Kentucky the nearest thing to a Cannae ever scored by any general, North or South, in the course of the whole war.”[8]”.
To my (libertylover’s) knowledge, it’s the only time in history that an entire U.S. Army was routed. For some reason, the Confederates did not exploit their victory, and Nelson escaped and lead another battle, about 50 miles to the west at Perryville, which was victorious. After that the Confederates left Kentucky never to return.
I’ll watch for your posts in the next few days and see if it gets a mention in the New York Times. I guess it would take a few days in 1862 for news to travel from Central Kentucky to New York. Also, they’d be hesitant to report one of their armies being routed.
Thanks for the head up, but we are still a month away from August 29.
It seems like the NYT gets news from the west via telegraph in one or two days, and then get additional details day by day.
They report on all the major battles but sometimes the outcomes change over time. That is, a MAJOR UNION VICTORY! might gradually evolve into a stand off, and then into a SHOCKING DEFEAT! as the truth becomes known to all.
In Tennessee, Nathan Bedford Forrest's cavalry surprised Yankee support troops at Murfreesboro, forcing their surrender. It will not be the last of such Forrest surprises!
Prediction: my great grandfather will fall victim to another such...
Tennessee 1862 Engagements
| Date | Engagement | Military Units | Losses | Victor |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Feb 6 | Fort Henry, TN | Union Army of TN + West Flotilla (Grant, Foote ~15,000) & Confederate Army of Cent KY (Tilghman ~3,200) | Union 40-total, Confederates 79-total (15 killed) | USA |
| Feb 14-16 | Fort Donelson, TN | Union Army of the Tennessee + Mississippi River Squadron (Grant, Foote 24,531) & Confederate Army of Central KY + garrison (Floyd, Pillow, Buchner 16,171) | Union 2,691-total (507-killed), Confederates 13,846-total (327-killed) | USA |
| April 6-7 | Shiloh, TN | Union Army of West Tennessee (Grant, Buell ~63,000) & Confederate Army of Mississippi (AS Johnson, Beauregard ~40,335) | Union 13,047-total (1,754-killed), Confederate 10,699-total (1,728-killed) | USA |
| April 14 | Fort Pillowi, TN | Union mortor boats bombard Fort Pillow | none | CSA |
| May 10 | Plum Run Bend, TN | Union MS River Squadron (7-river ironclads), Confederate River Defense Fleet (9-wooden steamboats) | none recorded | CSA |
| June 6 | Memphis, TN | Union MS Flotilla (Davis, Ellet+), Confederate River Defense Fleet (Montgomery, Thompson) | Union 1- total, Confederates 250-total (~35-killed) | USA |
| June 7-8 | Chattanooga, TN | Union Army of OH (Negley 1 division), Confederate Army of KY (EK Smith) | Union 23-total, Confederates 65-total | USA |
| July 13 | Murfreesboro, TN | Union hospital & PA cavalry (Crittended ~900, Confederate Cavalry (Forrest ~1,400) | Union 890-total (0-killed), Confederates ~150-total (0-killed) | CSA |
In New Mexico, Union troops defeated Confederate Appaches at Apache pass:
New Mexico 1861-'62 Engagements
| Date | Engagement | Military Units | Losses | Victor |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| July 25 | Mesilla, New Mexico | Union Department of the New Mexico (~300) vs. Confederate 2nd Texas Mounted Rifles (~380 +artillery ) | Union: 9-total (2-killed); Confederates: 19-total (13-killed) | CSA |
| July 27 | Fort Fillmore, NM | Union Department of the New Mexico (~500) vs. Confederate 2nd Texas Mounted Rifles (~300) | Union: 500-total (surrendered); Confederates: none | CSA (CSA outnumbered, Union surrendered) |
| Sep 25 | Alamosa, NM | Union Dep of NM (Minks ~100 cavalry)& Confederate cavalry (Coopwood ~112) | Union 33 (4-killed); Confederates 9-total (2-killed) | CSA (Union surrendered) |
| Sep 27 | Fort Craig, NM | Union Haspel's cavalry ( ~100) & Confederate cavalry | Union 10-total; Confederates 10-total | CSA |
| Sep 27 | Pinos Altos, NM | Union allied Apaches (Cochise ~300) & Confederate Arizona Guards (Mastin ~15 +cannon) | Union Apaches 30-total (10 killed); Confederates 14-total (7-killed, incl. Mastin) | CSA (CSA outnumbered) |
| Feb 21, 1862 | Valverde, NM | Union Dept of NM (Canby, McRae ~3,000) & Confederate Army of NM (Sibley, Green ~2,290) | Union 432-total (68-killed), Confederates 187-total (36-killed) | CSA (CSA outnumbered) |
| Feb 22 | Socorro, NM | Union 2nd New Mexico & Confederate 5th Texas | None | CSA |
| Mar 26-28 | Apache Canyon, Glorieta Pass NM | Union US & CO Infantry (Slough ~1,300) & Confederate Texas cavalry (Slurry ~1,100) | Union 147-total (51-killed), Confederate 222 total (50- killed) | USA strategic, tactical draw |
| Mar 30 | Stanwix Station, AZ | Union CA cavalry (Calloway -272) & Confederate AZ Rangers (Swilling -10) | Union 1-total (0-killed), Confederate none | USA |
| April 14 | Las Padillas, NM | Union NM militia, Confederate Army of NM | unknown | USA |
| April 15 | Peralta, NM | Union NM & CO Inf., Confederate Texas Cav (Green | Union 4-total (1-killed), Confederate 30-total (5-killed) | USA |
| April 15 | Picacho Pass, AZ | Union CA cavalry (Carleton -13), Confederate AZ rangers (Henry -10) | Union 4-total (1-killed), Confederate 30-total (5-killed) | CSA |
| July 15 | Apache Pass, NM | Union California Column (Roberts ~1380, Confederate Apaches (Cochise ~200) | Union 5-total (2-killed), Confederates ~9-total (9-killed) | USA |
Summary of Civil War Engagements as of July 29, 1862:
Engagements in Confederate states:
| State | Union Victories | Confederate Victories | Inconclusive | Total Engagements |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| South Carolina | 2 | 2 | 1 | 5 |
| Virginia | 7 | 19 | 10 | 36 |
| North Carolina | 5 | 1 | 0 | 6 |
| Florida | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Louisiana | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 |
| Tennessee | 5 | 3 | 0 | 8 |
| Arkansas | 4 | 0 | 1 | 5 |
| Georgia | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Mississippi | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Total Engagements in CSA | 28 | 26 | 12 | 66 |
Engagements in Union states/territories:
| State | Union Victories | Confederate Victories | Inconclusive | Total Engagements |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maryland | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
| West Virginia | 9 | 3 | 2 | 14 |
| Missouri | 11 | 9 | 1 | 21 |
| New Mexico | 5 | 8 | 0 | 13 |
| Kentucky | 4 | 3 | 2 | 9 |
| Oklahoma | 0 | 3 | 0 | 3 |
| Total Engagements in Union | 30 | 26 | 6 | 62 |
| Total Engagements to date | 58 | 52 | 18 | 128 |
Duh. My bad.
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