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The Upside-Down Logic of Electric SUVs
Wsj ^ | 22 July 2022 | Holman W. Jenkins

Posted on 07/24/2022 10:04:44 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The auto industry gambles its finances on big electric vehicles for the rich, like Ford’s Mustang Mach-E and GM’s Hummer EV, and second-rate cars for everybody else.

OK. Buyers aren’t drawn to the electric Mustang or Ford’s new F-150 Lightning pickup to solve climate change. These are exciting, high-tech gadgets in their own right. And that’s fine. Even so, customers’ appetite might slacken if they were told the truth. Ford leaked this week for the benefit of the investment community plans to lay off thousands of workers to fatten the profits of its conventional vehicles.

As Ford CEO Jim Farley said in March, “we need them to be more profitable to fund” Ford’s $50 billion in spending on mostly high-end EVs, which have the least chance of being net reducers of CO2.

Their dreamland is Norway, where hybrid and electric-vehicle miles now exceed conventional-vehicle miles, thanks to generous subsidies to EV buyers. Paid for how? With 0.07% of the world’s people, Norway exports 2% of the world’s oil and gas, 30 times its share of global population.

According to the consultancy AlixPartners, some $526 billion is currently being invested to create dozens of mostly high-end electric vehicles aimed at the 17% of buyers who constitute the luxury market. The impact on climate of these cars will be zero.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: agitprop; automotive; electric; ev; ntsa
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To: TexasGator

and you double the inconvenience by having to charge a battery in addition to filling a fuel tank...


41 posted on 07/24/2022 11:22:00 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: cyclotic

“Yea, so I go around researching every stupid little thing I see in life.”

What was stupid was your post.


42 posted on 07/24/2022 11:22:49 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: heavy metal

“and you double the inconvenience by having to charge a battery in addition to filling a fuel tank...”

Thanks for displaying your ignorance!


43 posted on 07/24/2022 11:28:41 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Go have a look at the youtube video of the range test a couple of guys out in Colorado did using a GMC 1500 with the 6.2 motor and a Ford Lighting. They got identical toy hauler trailers and set out to see how far they would go on a full tank of gas/charge. The Ford got a whopping 85 miles down the road before they had to pull in and get a charge. The GMC still had a 100 miles + left in the tank. Essentially the Ford is a 60k grocery getter.


44 posted on 07/24/2022 11:32:21 AM PDT by technically right
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“And do not forget the new and improved road taxes added to them by the states. Such a deal”!

And the “miles driven” taxes that will be coming.


45 posted on 07/24/2022 11:41:13 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
SNL Video: Introducing the Mercedes AA class, a luxury car powered entirely by batteries.

-PJ

46 posted on 07/24/2022 11:42:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Last June during the big heat wave in the PNW I had the displeasure of g3etting stuck on the freeway because of an accident. It took about 2 hours to clear. The outside temperature was about 110. I, along with many others in our large Diesel and gasoline burning vehicles idled comfortably with the AC going. Hilariously there were dozens of Teslas that had to be pushed off the side of the road with dead batteries. You can’t beg or borrow a gas can full of electrons to get a Tesla to the nearest charging station...


47 posted on 07/24/2022 11:45:12 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: TexasGator

thanks for proving your ignorance...

the article states the battery requires a 2 hour plug in charge...


48 posted on 07/24/2022 11:45:31 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: cyclotic

I’m fine with an electric car enthusiast and his efforts to not use fossil fuel if he only charges via solar and wind.


49 posted on 07/24/2022 11:46:57 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

LOL...that’s a great response. I’m surprised the writer didn’t also weave in the smug satisfaction and feeling of superiority he gets from driving his EV.


50 posted on 07/24/2022 11:50:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“Hoax” — are you kidding. It’s HOT out there today! What else could it possibly be besides climate change?


51 posted on 07/24/2022 11:52:48 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: glennaro
Logic, reason and, especially, wisdom has no place in the tenets of their cult.

Yes. In addition, especially missing from all libs is any real-world engineering experience or systems life-cycle analytical capability.

52 posted on 07/24/2022 11:55:59 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: KC Burke

And there’s a German report that shows negative efficiency of solar panels over 77 deg. F.

So wind doesn’t work on a calm day or during a severe windstorm. Solar doesn’t work in winter or at not or on a hot sunny day.

Coal burns in any condition, so does natural gas. So does nuclear.


53 posted on 07/24/2022 11:59:05 AM PDT by cyclotic (Follow 1776Restorationmovent.com fighting for our Constitution. @1776RM on Truth)
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To: TexasGator

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4764208/Child-miners-aged-four-living-hell-Earth.html

Zeepers have assured me that the Daily Mail has the most accurate news on the planet.

If you are unable to read, there are pictures...

If you are unable to understand the pictures, there is a video with sub titles, but we’d be back to reading.


54 posted on 07/24/2022 11:59:47 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"If you are unable to read, there are pictures..."

Your picture:

Reality:


55 posted on 07/24/2022 12:13:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

56 posted on 07/24/2022 12:17:29 PM PDT by DFG
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To: FarCenter

We’re going backwards, not forward.


57 posted on 07/24/2022 12:18:12 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: TexasGator

No, actual picture on site. Deny it as you will... but it remains.


58 posted on 07/24/2022 12:20:22 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: heavy metal

“the article states the battery requires a 2 hour plug in charge...”

That is NOT what it says!

It says it CAN be charged in two hours,

It is a hybrid. The engine can also charge the battery along with regenerative braking.


59 posted on 07/24/2022 12:20:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Thinking those new electrics are going to be a bitch to re-sell!

Dealer: No we don’t do trade-ins.


60 posted on 07/24/2022 12:22:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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