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Stunned by UFOs, ‘exasperated’ fighter pilots get little help from Pentagon
The Hill ^ | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

Posted on 07/06/2022 9:46:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: cll

Hillary on jetpack....or broom.


61 posted on 07/06/2022 3:52:03 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: libertylover

If you have Dish, History Channel 120 at 6 pm Pacific time next Tuesday for the last of the season episode of Skin Walker Ranch. They run repeats an hour or two before the new showing.


62 posted on 07/06/2022 3:53:00 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Bonemaker

“I can’t get the earth’s magnetic forces out of my head.”

It’s called induced magnetism. That’s why ships binnacle’s, where the magnetic compass is located, have two round iron spheres on either side. Known colloquially as the navigators balls.

One of those double beer can hats will work if the cans are steel.


63 posted on 07/06/2022 4:01:22 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: RoosterRedux

JAMBOG.

Stunned by UFOs, ‘exasperated’ fighter pilots get little help from Pentagon

07/05/2022 7:06:05 PM PDT · by rintintin · 52 replies
The Hill ^ | July 5 2022 | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4076327/posts


64 posted on 07/06/2022 5:45:25 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Cold Heart

I don’t get that, but History Vault has a promo for $1/month for 2 months. I’m going to see if I can get that for my Roku.


65 posted on 07/06/2022 5:46:06 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats are as determined to kill innocent people as the Nazis.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I will wager 50 Quatloos on the newcomer.


66 posted on 07/06/2022 5:47:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: RoosterRedux
I will wager 50 Quatloos on the newcomer.
67 posted on 07/06/2022 5:49:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Cold Heart

That’s very funny.
Cold as hell.
But very funny.


68 posted on 07/06/2022 6:08:07 PM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: Boogieman

And what is your ‘least ridiculous’ explanation?


69 posted on 07/06/2022 9:58:24 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: Cold Heart

I was able to get History Vault for my Roku. I’ll see what I can find.


70 posted on 07/07/2022 5:57:17 AM PDT by libertylover (Democrats are as determined to kill innocent people as the Nazis.)
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To: servantoftheservant

Well, if “unknown aircraft” are flying around military bases of a country that is known to keep some new aircraft designs confidential for decades, then the simplest explanation is that these are just new aircraft designs that haven’t been unclassified yet.


71 posted on 07/07/2022 7:05:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cgbg

“Intellectuals have been cutting their own throats with that razor for centuries.”

Far less often than it is used to produce correct explanations.


72 posted on 07/07/2022 7:06:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Terence McKenna had a hilarious explanation of how science works.

He said that if scientists discovered a radio for the first time they would take it apart looking for the talking people inside.

;-)


73 posted on 07/07/2022 8:01:01 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Yes, but once they dismantled it and didn’t find any people, they would rule that out and move on to the next most reasonable explanation. So the method might seem ridiculous at first glance, but it still yields results nonetheless.


74 posted on 07/07/2022 10:36:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The problem that McKenna was highlighting is that science has a bunch of unstated assumptions that impede actual fact-finding.

In the case of the radio the key was that there was a whole civilization (out of sight and not measured by instruments) that would need to be understood to figure out what was happening.

_That_ is the UFO issue in a nutshell.

The assumptions must be thrown away before a serious investigation can be started.


75 posted on 07/07/2022 10:52:01 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

“The assumptions must be thrown away before a serious investigation can be started.”

I can see that angle, but I don’t think he’s quite correct. Science wouldn’t assume that there can’t be some other undetected civilization out there responsible for the phenomenon. That’s not one of the basic assumptions of science, or a conclusion that would derive from any basic assumption of science.

Science probably would assign that a lower likelihood and a lower priority to investigate, but the beauty of the method is that eventually, as the higher priority and more probable explanations are ruled out by the method itself, those lower priority explanations would naturally take precedence. So there is no need to dump the scientific method, since just following it will still get you to the same place in the rare circumstance where the apparently higher probability solutions are false, and in most cases, the higher probability solutions are true, so following the method, on the whole, is more efficient.


76 posted on 07/07/2022 11:29:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The problem is that “scientific method” today is not the “scientific method” of the 1800s.

Today the “method” is in the context of huge bureaucratic institutions, government, university, large corporations—so all the prejudices become frozen in place.

This lesser known part of Eisenhower’s farewell address explains it very well:

“Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields.

In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research.

Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity.

For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.”


77 posted on 07/07/2022 11:43:16 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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