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Stunned by UFOs, ‘exasperated’ fighter pilots get little help from Pentagon
The Hill ^ | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

Posted on 07/06/2022 9:46:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: Zuriel

A different take on planes and UFOs.

Entertaining if nothing else and a favorite episode of One Step Beyond.

http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/beyond/beyond51.html


41 posted on 07/06/2022 11:19:09 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: reviled downesdad

Bob Lazar has no reason to lie. He didn’t get rich from this, he got vilified by the powers that be. Demonic influences? Good Grief.


42 posted on 07/06/2022 11:55:14 AM PDT by dainbramaged (What did the cook say when the rat fell into the chowder? "Better luck next time.")
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To: Cold Heart
Just finished watching a recent Youtube video and here's the comment I left:

It should be noted that the original owner of the ranch, Robert Bigelow became part of a classified program to investigate the possibility of such phenomena, known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

Following the end of that program, Bigelow sold the ranch to the current owner, Brandon Fugol, in 2016, who is now conducting his own studies with his select team, and the AATIP has refused to turn over the results of their investigations to Fugol, citing them as classified.

What I found most interesting in the interview with Travis by George Napp, was when he stated that there were events recorded but edited out that he could not comment on. I found that very strange.

It would appear to me that there is a government entity overseeing this project and determining what can and can not be revealed in the final releasing of each episode.

43 posted on 07/06/2022 12:04:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't walk thru the watermelon patch)
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To: All

The Nazis, from their secret Antarctic base, must be getting nervous about the WEC and the great reset...


44 posted on 07/06/2022 12:14:17 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: RoosterRedux

UAP bump for later...


45 posted on 07/06/2022 12:25:56 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; Hot Tabasco; Zuriel; Daffynition; Migraine; Dust in the Wind; SouthernClaire
“We're way out there — in some cases hundreds of miles out to sea — and yet there's air traffic operating, and they're operating in ways that are befuddling our aviators,” Graves said.

I just posted to the earlier thread that you linked. Post 48.

Related to that subject matter:

Hot Tabasco:

It should be remembered that when the atomic bomb was built during WW-II, that program was so secretive that even many of the participants were in the dark about what they were working on.

Zuriel:

The next Top Gun sequel: Maverick vs Mars

That would be analogous to the famous wresting match in Genesis 32. But in more recent times, as for the name Graves... the Top Gun house is the Graves House, which was recently resurrected and reimagined. LINK

Then of course there's the place of First Light and First Wind on the Lower 48. The address there, of the Big Rock, is 37 Graves.

I covered that yesterday on post 23 of

The First Hidden Light of Creation (What's in a Name?)

Sorry for the coding mess-up on that one. I missed one paragraph code and the text wrapped around the image.

46 posted on 07/06/2022 1:03:59 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ . . . - - - . . . "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Exactly


47 posted on 07/06/2022 1:04:47 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: servantoftheservant

Sure, sure. All the aliens traveled light years across the galaxy to watch us “train”. Guess they’re just huge “Top Gun” fans.


48 posted on 07/06/2022 1:06:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DHerion

The Nazis are spending their gold, that nobody can find, buying DA’s.


49 posted on 07/06/2022 1:07:31 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Psalm 73

Humans have a soul and a physical body which is our armor,created by god,to protect us from them.
Our physical bodies ordinarily prevent us from crossing over into their realm.


50 posted on 07/06/2022 1:09:56 PM PDT by Right Brigade
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To: Cold Heart

“On TV last night. Forgot where but in ‘85 a UAP collided with a sheriffs car. Some damage to the car and radiation burns on the deputy. Documented.”

Got a link? I couldn’t find it.

“Lots of documentation out there.”
The trouble is, most of it is very unconvincing. Telling me that you saw a light in the night sky behaving in a manner you didn’t expect is about the least convincing evidence you could present to me.

I’m not saying they’re not real, but like proving Big Foot, it’ll take a body (or a vehicle) at least.


51 posted on 07/06/2022 1:15:08 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats are as determined to kill innocent people as the Nazis.)
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To: libertylover

I think it was the Travel Channel, had an entire program on law enforcement encounters.

The most dramatic was where 5 police agencies followed a UFO as it passed through their jurisdictions. They were in contact with the nearby air force base that denied seeing anything on their radar. Kind of like the movie Airplane where the guy unplugged the radar.

History Channel, especially (daily), and Travel Channel have been running documentaries for years on the subject. You would have to be like the Three Monkeys not to a different opinion after watching.


52 posted on 07/06/2022 1:40:56 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Bonemaker
Actually, I’m rather agnostic on the subject but leaning toward there being a there there...based on some of my military experience.😎

I don’t think they are being operated by aliens from other planets, but the fact that incomprehensibly advanced devices not created by humans are flying through our skies is now a fact. The big question is where are they from and who is either in control of them or piloting them? The possibilities I see are some kind of transdimensional phenomenon, demonic activity, or even (but probably less likely) time travelers.

J. Allen Hynek, the well-known astronomer who first served as a debunker on the Air Force’s Project Blue Book, eventually became convinced that the phenomenon is real. I read his excellent book, “The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry” when I was a kid. It is a very objective and methodical analysis of the phenomenon. Toward the end of the book, he concludes that the more he analyzed UFO incidents, the more they seemed like a spiritual phenomenon rather than a purely physical one. Hynek was also the one who devised the system to classify UFO encounters by “kind” (close encounters of the third kind, for example).

One thing is clear: Whatever the origin of these things, their existence indicates that what we think we understand about the world and our place in it is extremely limited. The true nature of reality is far beyond what we can imagine.

53 posted on 07/06/2022 1:44:04 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: libertylover

The story has been around, they saved the car which was damaged.
Happened in 1979
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/minnesota/ufo-sighting-mn/

Fair number of articles with Bing search of Minnesota sheriff, ufo


54 posted on 07/06/2022 2:26:30 PM PDT by cephalopod (The sun shines bright in my new Kentucky home)
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To: Cold Heart

Oh, I’ve seen the one about the 5 police agencies following a UFO and it is convincing that they saw something. They even described it fairly consistently.


55 posted on 07/06/2022 2:28:48 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats are as determined to kill innocent people as the Nazis.)
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To: noiseman

Because of the maneuverability and seeming defiance of the laws of physics, I can’t get the earth’s magnetic forces out of my head. How to harness it is the question.


56 posted on 07/06/2022 2:57:51 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Boogieman

You assume because you don’t understand their purpose that they don’t exist.

Can you conceive that most of reality is inconceivable to you?

LOL. You’re a small minded insect making pontifications about infinity.


57 posted on 07/06/2022 3:03:27 PM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: servantoftheservant

“You assume because you don’t understand their purpose that they don’t exist.”

No I just assume the most likely explanation is probably the least ridiculous explanation rather than the most ridiculous explanation.


58 posted on 07/06/2022 3:05:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: noiseman

“The true nature of reality is far beyond what we can imagine.”

I am going to add two more to your “possible” list—that science says is “impossible”.

First was developed by Carl Jung in his book:

https://www.amazon.com/Flying-Saucers-Modern-Things-Skies/dp/0691018227

He argued that UFOs and aliens were manifestations of the human collective consciousness.

Second is the Gaia hypothesis—or some variation—that the planet itself is intelligent and can manifest these things.

There is no way science in its current state can test such a hypothesis. It would be like ants debating whether humans are intelligent.


59 posted on 07/06/2022 3:06:31 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Boogieman

Your argument is a variation of Occam’s razor.

Intellectuals have been cutting their own throats with that razor for centuries.

;-)


60 posted on 07/06/2022 3:07:38 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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