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UPS driver dies in Pasadena after collapsing inside delivery truck day after his 24th birthday
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Posted on 07/03/2022 7:32:22 PM PDT by Tipllub

PASADENA, Calif. - Esteban Chavez had worked at UPS for four years. His family says he had dreams of moving up in the company, perhaps getting into management. But sadly at the age of 24, he died suddenly while on the job.

One day after celebrating his 24th birthday, Chavez collapsed on a driveway in Pasadena while delivering packages on June 25.

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KEYWORDS: antivaxhysteria; covaxmortalities; suddenly; ups
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To: entropy12

entropy12 wrote: “Which Vaccines you are for?”

I think there is more to the opposition to these vaccines than just the side effects. If you read closely, most of those posting these anti-vaccine threads are motivated by a belief in a conspiracy of involving the pharmaceutical companies and the government.

Just like every conspiracy theory, any information that is contrary to the theory is dismissed as proof of a cover up proving the truth of the conspiracy.


181 posted on 07/09/2022 8:33:07 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke; entropy12; semimojo

my not trusting the biden administration to protect me and my health doesn’t make me a conspiracy theorist or an anti-vaxxer...


182 posted on 07/09/2022 8:39:46 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Allegra
You just popped out of nowhere, foaming at the mouth.

Hyperventilate much?

What’s with the recent uptick in you people posting your little shot garbage all over the place? Aren’t you done with that now? Anybody who wanted your little shot has it now.

Focus. You were talking about people who weren't anti-vax, just against having a particular vaccine forced on them.

My question was, if they aren't anti-vax which Covid vaccines are OK? There are lots to choose from.

I'd hate to think it's just anti-vaxxers making up excuses because some, but not most, of the Covid vaccines use new technology.

Intellectually honest anti-vaxxers own their beliefs.

183 posted on 07/09/2022 9:00:06 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: heavy metal
my not trusting the biden administration to protect me and my health doesn’t make me a conspiracy theorist or an anti-vaxxer...

These vaccines weren't developed under Biden, so...

184 posted on 07/09/2022 9:05:08 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
Focus. You were talking about people who weren't anti-vax, just against having a particular vaccine forced on them.

Yep. That was my point. Still is. It’s not an invitation for a sales pitch. Just a point.

My question was, if they aren't anti-vax which Covid vaccines are OK? There are lots to choose from.

Don’t know. Don’t care. What part of “I don’t give a rat’s posterior” was hard to grasp?

I'd hate to think it's just anti-vaxxers making up excuses because some, but not most, of the Covid vaccines use new technology.

Again, don’t care. I’m not interested in whatever it is you’re selling. Period. Capiche?

185 posted on 07/09/2022 9:08:38 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra
Don’t know. Don’t care. What part of “I don’t give a rat’s posterior” was hard to grasp?

The part where you're defending the anti-vaxxers by saying the obviously wrong:

"Nobody’s arguing against “all the vaccines.”"

If they aren't, which ones do they accept?

186 posted on 07/09/2022 9:20:10 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
If they aren't, which ones do they accept?

Don’t know. Don’t care.

Ask them.

I’m going to stop responding to you now, because I know a lot of trolls are paid by the post. I’m not saying you are one, but I’m not convinced that you’re not, so I’ll err on the side of caution. Have a nice day!

187 posted on 07/09/2022 9:26:09 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: semimojo

biden proved the kung flu is a scam when he waltzed into the white house, disbanded trump’s “operation warp speed”, opened our southern border, and continues to spread over 2,000,000 (2 million) nondocumented unvaccinated invaders across our country during a supposed “global pandemic” while anthony fauci, the cdc, the nih, the world health organization, the enemedia, hollywierd, and the majority of our elected representatives sit back and watch...

trust the biden administration to protect you and your health at your own peril...


188 posted on 07/09/2022 9:26:43 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: semimojo

“ If they aren’t, which ones do they accept?”
————————————————————————————————-

Well, I do know they don’t accept the Pfizer vaccine, you know the same vaccine that Steve Kirsch and the Amazing Dr. Malone received.

Which is odd because those two guys are heros but they did get get vaccinated and admit it.


189 posted on 07/09/2022 9:32:00 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: Allegra; DugwayDuke

Because the fear porn incessantly posted about covid vaccines displays a deranged mentality of belief in a giant left wing conspiracy between gov’t and corporations. With 260 Million Americans already vaxxed, none of the fear porn posted amounts to total anywhere close to even 1% of the number of Americans vaxxed.


190 posted on 07/10/2022 11:10:05 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable. Are so many somany)
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To: entropy12

How many people would have to be injured, killed before you’d approve of yanking the CoupFlu vaxxes?

Just curious.


191 posted on 07/10/2022 11:14:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: entropy12

Keeping in mind that in ‘77, during the Swine Flu, the vaxx was yanked after killing fewer than 3 dozen and injuring 500.

I think we can all agree that body count for these vaxxes is already far higher than that in the US.


192 posted on 07/10/2022 11:18:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: mewzilla

I can agree this covid vaccine causes stress on the body.
My first shot was a nothing burger.
My second & third shots caused me to feel very tired the days after the jabs. I felt like I was coming down with a cold or flu. I had to rest in bed all day. But on the 3rd day after the jab, I was feeling normal again.

I exercise at least 5 times every week in a gym for 30 minutes. If the vaccine stressed me, I can imagine a obese person with other comorbidities could be severely affected.
I may be 82 age, but in superb physical shape from regular exercise. I am truly shocked anyone 82 years old can feel this athletic.


193 posted on 07/10/2022 11:34:26 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable. Are so many somany)
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To: entropy12

Stop spewing your fake statistics and your stupid little insults.

You leftists get so angry because not everybody believes the way you do and we won’t be swayed by you.

Just stop with that nonsense. Accept the fact that not everybody adores and worships your little shot and move on.


194 posted on 07/10/2022 11:48:54 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: mewzilla

Less than half of the percentage of people who died from covid.


195 posted on 07/10/2022 11:51:43 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable. Are so many somany)
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To: Allegra

Stop posting the fear porn and I wont have to post responses.


196 posted on 07/10/2022 11:52:41 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable. Are so many somany)
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To: Tipllub
Here's another one...

Teenager, 17, dies from rare blood disorder 'after doctors thought she had tonsillitis' - as devastated family pay tribute to 'perfect daughter' who 'touched the lives of everyone that met her'

Oh, BTW...

Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

197 posted on 07/10/2022 11:53:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: entropy12

I’ll post what I choose to post. You don’t get to tell anybody around here what to post, so sit down.

And saying that I don’t worship your little shot is not “fear porn.” Stop lying. When you have to lie to make a point, you don’t have a valid point; you’re just trolling.

Now run along, troll.


198 posted on 07/10/2022 11:56:49 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: entropy12

That’s a far higher body count than we as a nation used in ‘77.

What’s your justification for such a high number?

Especially when you consider that the people harmed have no legal form of redress.


199 posted on 07/10/2022 11:57:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: mewzilla

That number was MY MAXIMUM tolerance. It is no where the total number I have seen in news.

I have never seen actual percentage of 260 million Americans who have received at least on jab to be seriously harmed. All I have seen is anecdotal information of X number of people suffered Y type of harm. How do they know it was the vaccine and not other cause? Americans die every day, long before covid arrived. If 0.5% of vaxxed people were harmed it would be 1.3 Million people, and it would make the vaccine 99.5% safe from serious adverse effects. I have not seen news clips of 1.3 million dropping dead. Have you?


200 posted on 07/10/2022 12:04:40 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable. Are so many somany)
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