Posted on 07/03/2022 7:32:22 PM PDT by Tipllub
PASADENA, Calif. - Esteban Chavez had worked at UPS for four years. His family says he had dreams of moving up in the company, perhaps getting into management. But sadly at the age of 24, he died suddenly while on the job.
One day after celebrating his 24th birthday, Chavez collapsed on a driveway in Pasadena while delivering packages on June 25.
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Allegra wrote: “Are you one of those Facebook “fact checkers” who goes around removing people’s opinions that don’t align with yours and Zuckerberg’s? Can’t do that here, y’know.”
I’ve never joined facebook and I have no idea about Zuckerberg’s opinions.
This thread is a perfect example of the knee-jerk anti-vaxxer reaction. The man died during a heat wave and drought while working outside and the only acceptable position is that his death was caused by the vaccine even when there is no credible information that he was vaccinated.
heavy metal wrote: “you’re actions prove you’re the one going off the deep end...”
Going off the deep end is when one insists that a man’s death during a heatwave and drought while doing strenuous outdoor work was caused by the vaccine even though there is no credible evidence he was vaccinated.
i never said that...
…and may he rest in peace.
…and the only acceptable position is that his death was caused by the vaccine even when there is no credible information that he was vaccinated.
I haven’t read every post, but I don’t see anybody saying that’s the only acceptable position.
Sudden deaths among younger people have increased over the past year or so and naturally people are going to question sudden deaths like this.
What I do see are a couple of people calling everyone who does question this man’s death an “anti-vaxxer” (which is a misnomer in this case) and stating that those who don’t agree with taking Fauci’s shot are “irrelevant” or questioning our legitimacy.
Allegra wrote: “Sudden deaths among younger people have increased over the past year or so and naturally people are going to question sudden deaths like this.”
Sudden Adult Death Syndrome has been studied for over two decades. There is no evidence it is increasing regardless of what the anti-vaxxers claim.
Allegra wrote: “What I do see are a couple of people calling everyone who does question this man’s death an “anti-vaxxer” (which is a misnomer in this case) and stating that those who don’t agree with taking Fauci’s shot are “irrelevant” or questioning our legitimacy.”
It took from the original post at 7/3/2022, 9:32:22 PM till the second post at 7/3/2022, 9:32:22 PM for someone to insinuate that the man’s death resulted from the vaccine. By far, most posts in this thread have supported this dubious claim.
And, no, it’s not a misnomer to call someone who continuously scours the internet looking for adverse information on the vaccines an ‘anti-vaxxer’.
This claim by some that they only oppose this vaccine is dubious at best since it cannot be proven in any manner. You do realize that almost all the claims against these vaccines have been made against all vaccines in the past. Ever since the first vaccine against small pox in the late 1700’s, the anti-vaxxers have raised the same objections.
In 1700, they claimed the vaccine would turn one into a cow. Now they claim the vaccines modify your DNA. That’s the same argument. Then they claimed the vaccines contained bat feces. Now they claim the vaccines contain poison. Same argument.
One cannot make the same arguments against all the vaccines and credibly claim that one is not and anti-vaxxer.
my not trusting my government to protect me and my health doesn’t make me an anti-vaxxer...
You really need to stop lying.
dforest wrote: “You really need to stop lying.”
Refusing to support the anti-vaxxer conspiracy cult isn’t lying.
my not trusting my government to protect me and my health doesn’t make me an anti-vaxxer...
he lies every time he calls someone an anti-vaxxer...
I’m sorry for your loss. Sending up a little prayer for you.
Nobody’s doing that here. Nobody’s arguing against “all the vaccines.”
People are questioning the safety of a shot the government desperately tried to force the populace to take. They have used threats. They’ve used bribes. Not just one shot, either. They’re still pushing boosters.
Allegra wrote: “Nobody’s doing that here. Nobody’s arguing against “all the vaccines.””
Have you done any research in the history of the opposition to vaccinations?
How do you explain why some here are using the very same arguments against the covid vaccines that have been made against every vaccine in the past?
That truly implies that they are against all vaccines.
I stand corrected. I should have known the correct understanding of the word, as I recently read a fiction book with that word features prominently for a full chapter.
You are delusional dude! Look at VAERS… look at the death all over the world! They are killing people and the vax is just one of their methods. Wake the F up!
If the vaccine can’t cause even a minor adverse effect to my wife who is Medicare age and is fighting stage-4 cancer for nearly 5 years, the vaccines are a BIG NOTHING BURGER in causing adverse effects.
I have no idea if the vaccines are useful or effective. But since taxpayers are paying for them (including me, my tax bill for 2021 was $60k+) and they are zero out of pocket expense, I will take all the free jabs available.
Lastly, what PERCENTAGE of 260,000,000 Americans already jabbed have experienced severe adverse effects from the jabs? If you do not know that answer, you are a low information person.
Which Vaccines you are for?
Are you aware that every vaccine ever created always had some people who experienced adverse effects?
Reason medical doctors advise getting the vaccines is they consider the benefits outweigh any adverse effects.
People post lot of fear port here about adverse effects from covid vaccines, gathered from some remote sites. But since 260,000,000 Americans have received jabs, what is the percent of people who experienced adverse effects? I never see that number in the fear porn posts. In life nothing is 100%. When you are admitted to a hospital, there is always a chance you will never check out alive. But we go to hospitals because chance of benefit is greater than risk.
I am fully aware that any vaccine including covid vaccine could cause adverse effects. But I got 4 jabs so far since I have zero side effects 16 months after the first jab, I will keep getting jabbed as needed. It is possible the vaccine could help me avoid serious symptoms from covid.
LOL.There are many Covid vaccines, using different technologies.
Sinopharm, Sinovac, Sputnik V,CoVaxin, etc.
Which of these are deemed acceptable by the people who are are open to vaccines but concerned about those being forced on them by the US government?
LOL - what’s with this sudden Attack of the Vax Pushers? You just popped out of nowhere, foaming at the mouth. Yipping like little ankle-biters. 😂
You’re even arguing points I never made. Are you that desperate? Because you’re starting to sound pretty desperate.
I’m not a fan of your little shot. I’m against the government mandating your little shot. I don’t give a rat’s posterior whether you have the shot and why you have it.
I live in a free state and we’ve been going on about our lives for quite a while now. Nobody asks anybody about whether or not they’ve had the little shot and people aren’t running around with dirty little muzzles on their faces here.
What’s with the recent uptick in you people posting your little shot garbage all over the place? Aren’t you done with that now? Anybody who wanted your little shot has it now. Move on. And stop shilling. You’re annoying.
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