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What Is the Second Amendment for, Exactly?
Jacobin ^ | 6/21/2020 | CHRISTOPHER R. MARTIN

Posted on 06/21/2022 9:02:55 AM PDT by Houserino

The Second Amendment is killing us so the gun industry can rake in massive profits — we can’t keep interpreting it as an absolute right for every single citizen to own a gun.

In the week following the May 24 massacre in Uvalde, Texas, the Sioux City Bandits, a professional indoor football team from western Iowa, had planned a giveaway of an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle as a “Military Night” promotion, as they had done a year earlier. After widespread criticism, the Sioux City Journal reported that the team’s Missouri-based owner, J.R. Bond, said canceling or postponing the giveaway “didn’t even approach my radar screen.” Bond added that “some people’s ‘obsession with a piece of metal is overblown’ and that the negative comments came from East Coast residents who are ‘driving electric cars and eating wheat grass.’”

For the record: One of the main critics was the local co-owner of the State Steel Supply Company in Sioux City, who said he would end his sponsorship of the Bandits because “this promotion is beyond tone deaf and is incredibly insensitive to current affairs.” (Also, for the record: You can buy both wheat grass and electric cars in Sioux City.)

J.R. Bond was right about one thing — that some people’s “obsession with a piece of metal is overblown.” In fact, if lots of people did not have overblown obsessions with guns, he wouldn’t have been using one as a promotion, and his team would likely be named something other than “the Bandits.”

The massacre in Uvalde was horrific. An eighteen-year-old man wielding an AR-15 style semiautomatic rifle on May 24 murdered twenty-one people (nineteen of them children) and wounded seventeen others. We have heard this kind of gut-punching news too many times before, and each time millions hope this time will be the event that finally changes the country’s toxic relationship with guns. When will Congress do something, anything to stop the unrelenting deaths by firearms?


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To: DoodleBob

Leftist academic who would not survive employment in the real world outside of leftist journalism.


61 posted on 06/21/2022 10:26:25 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: KC Burke

Looks like an XXY version of Maddow.


62 posted on 06/21/2022 10:28:47 AM PDT by Houserino
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To: Houserino

When the people fear the government it’s tyranny when the government fears the people it’s liberty.

Ronnie


63 posted on 06/21/2022 10:34:29 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: KC Burke

Oh, I dunno....he could be the body double for Pajama Boy, or if you take off his glasses he could fill in for Wallace from Wallace and Gromit. There’s good pay in that business.


64 posted on 06/21/2022 10:37:33 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Houserino

I sent this POS prof a piece of my mind and dared him to print the truth about American right to bear arms. I double dared hnim. Let`s see if he responds to my email or if he is just pure unadulterated commie chickensht. His email is martinc@uni.edu


65 posted on 06/21/2022 10:37:54 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (t)
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To: Reno89519

some of what came before

“1645 -Youth from ten to sixteen years are to be
exercised with small guns, half-pikes, bows and arrows.”
1648 -”In every company some under-officer shall be
appointed by the captain “to exercise such children...”
‘History of Ipswich, Essex, and Hamilton’ By Joseph Barlow Felt, p141
[My GGGG Grandfather lived in Ipswich.]

EVEN THE BRITISH IN 1794 ATTEST TO THE EXERCISE AND PRACTICE OF THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS BY AMERICAN KIDS PRIOR TO THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR
1775 “Events which served to shew [sic] that if the Americans were yet unacquainted with military discipline they were not destitute of either courage or conduct but knew well and dared to avail themselves of such advantages as they possessed. The people of the colonies are accustomed to the use of fire arms from their earliest youth and are in general good marksmen. Such men placed in a house behind a wall or amongst trees are capable of doing as much execution as regular soldiers. And to these advantages which they possessed during the greatest part of the nineteenth of April we may attribute the inconsiderable loss sustained by them compared with that of our detachments.” Stedman,p.120, [The History of the Origin, Progress,
and Termination of the .American War,” Stedman, C. 1794, Volume 1]

1777 KIDS FIGHT WITH MUSKETS AND BAYONETS
AT BATTLE OF SARATOGA
Thirteen year old boys with muskets fought at Saratoga- Dwight, “The Northern Traveler”, p141

“Who saved Baltimore? ... Who obtained the victory at New Orleans?
These militia, trained and disciplined in their own houses; not practiced in the field, but BRINGING THEIR GUNS WHICH THEY WERE TAUGHT TO USE WHEN CHILDREN..” p.111, p.168 are sourced from “Proceedings and Debates of the Convention of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania”,
Vol. 4, by the Pennsylvania Constitutional Convention, 1837-8


66 posted on 06/21/2022 10:40:27 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (t)
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To: Houserino
The Second Amendment is killing us so the gun industry can rake in massive profits — we can’t keep interpreting it as an absolute right for every single citizen to own a gun.

The FIRST Amendment is killing us so that highly techno-enforced media can rake in massive profits -- we can't keep interpreting it that everything in a globally-owned/influenced media is an absolute 'right' under the US Constitution where "the press" is mentioned JUST ONCE.

Leftists argue that our founding fathers and supporters only had muskets and stuff - they didn't intend farther. They also only had (at best) Franklin printing presses and type sets where CITIZEN mom and pop journalists could disseminate the news in the most expedient fashion of the times. No instant tele-journalism, mass printing, software, internet or on and on and on..

You don't want semi-autos or whatever? I don't want your damned global 'the press' onslaught. It's a living Constitution, right? Good for the first, good for the second.

If you abrogate the Second, you'd damned well better do the same to the FIRST. Otherwise, STFU.

67 posted on 06/21/2022 10:50:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

They’re already going out of their way to minimize or ban the 1st. Hate speech laws were the first big salvo.. I bet this hateful leftist that wrote this has a gun or 2 as well.


68 posted on 06/21/2022 10:55:09 AM PDT by Houserino
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To: NorthMountain
Ask these same types where exactly in the Constitution does it give a woman the right to an abortion.
69 posted on 06/21/2022 10:55:15 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Gaffer
Leftists argue that our founding fathers and supporters only had muskets and stuff - they didn't intend farther.

Leftists can argue that all they want. The truth is that the founding fathers hired civilian warships to fight the British.

70 posted on 06/21/2022 10:58:02 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: ought-six

And before the Jacobins, we had the philosophy of Plato’s “Republic”


71 posted on 06/21/2022 11:01:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: jmacusa

“... emanates from the penumbra of a generalized right ...” trumps precise, unambiguous black letter prohibition ...

Just ask Nazi Pelousy.


72 posted on 06/21/2022 11:03:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly!


73 posted on 06/21/2022 11:03:19 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy. I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: NorthMountain

He exposes that he’d prefer to “reinterpret” the 2A as he wants. Sorry, doesn’t work that way. They know they have to change the Constitution by its defined process but won’t even try, they know they’ll fail.


74 posted on 06/21/2022 11:25:38 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic

Consequently, leftist resort to the courts. There, they hope to find a judge who will rule that either

1) The Constitution means something completely alien to what is actually written or

2) The Constitution means something completely opposite to what is actually written


75 posted on 06/21/2022 11:27:52 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: PapaBear3625

“And before the Jacobins, we had the philosophy of Plato’s ‘Republic.’”

And before that we had the Codes of Hammurabi.


76 posted on 06/21/2022 11:37:47 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: PapaBear3625

“And before the Jacobins, we had the philosophy of Plato’s ‘Republic.’”

And before that we had the Codes of Hammurabi.


77 posted on 06/21/2022 11:38:05 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Houserino

Mr. Martin,
In plain language, the 2A is the safeguard for all free people to assure that no tyrant or totalitarian government can ever abuse, usurp and in any other manner violate the principles of natural rights and consent of the governed who, by personal compact with each other, form safeguards ( government) to protect, further and enhance their collective right, liberties immunities and privileges as free men.

In short, to defend themselves against those who would deny them their rights.


78 posted on 06/21/2022 11:40:49 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: Political Junkie Too

“The phrase “well-regulated militia” comes from Congress’ power in Article I Section 8: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”

Actually, the term “well-regulated” refers to “well-functioning.” “Regulated” in the 18th century identified with function, as in a “well-regulated clock.”


79 posted on 06/21/2022 11:43:13 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: fuzzylogic
You know, I think that really needs to be the simple answer to any infringement of the 2nd amendment, 'If you don't like it (shall not be infringed), then suggest and update the 2nd amendment.'

At some point, the courts need to clear the deck of all infringing federal, state, and local laws, saying that if anyone wants to limit or alter the 2nd amendment (shall not be infringed), then they need to do so as provided in the constitution.

80 posted on 06/21/2022 11:44:12 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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