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The MOST precisely made granite object of Ancient Egypt - and why it's NOT geopolymer!
You Tube Uncharted X ^ | Jan 10, 2021 | Ben

Posted on 05/29/2022 6:52:53 AM PDT by bert

The UnchartedX Channel Presenter named Ben provides a video study of an Egyptian granite box fabricated with extreme precision. The presumed sarcophagus is located within a tomb far underground that is also a marvel of extremely precise construction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Ejf5etV5U


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abrasivesand; egyptiantechnology; geopolymerization; godsgravesglyphs; knapping; precision
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I posted this video in hopes of generating some discussion on the topic of an ancient, very ancient, Egyptian civilization that was capable of working very hard stone with the precision of a current computer controlled machine.

Ben and his crew chose this particular box for a detailed precision analysis. They don't actually provide any dimensions but clearly indicate the precision of dimensions, flatness, plumbness and squareness. The conclusion is that it is barely possible to fabricate such a box today and was completely impossible using mauls, stone chipping objects, and copper chisels. That is, the academics who so jealously defend their own theories are badly wrong

A trip into the quarries reveals all sorts of tool marks related to cutting stone and some rejected pieces still present after all this time

The problem with this specific video will be that the discussion can quickly go off topic to other closely related UnchartedX videos related to other stone objects fabricated with a precision deemed impossible with the tools known to be available at the time.

I wish I had the old GGG list to ping for others who might have an interest in the topic of an extremely advanced people preceding the historical Egyptian period that is the sole property of jealous academics

1 posted on 05/29/2022 6:52:53 AM PDT by bert
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To: bert
It's not Egyptians, it's


2 posted on 05/29/2022 7:00:08 AM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: bert

It’s galling that those ancient peoples aren’t given credit for their remarkable accomplishments. It’s assumed that only space aliens or fallen angels could have been talented enough to work with stone.


3 posted on 05/29/2022 7:01:20 AM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: bert

Thanks for posting - I’ll check out the video. I have always been fascinated with how the Egyptians managed to “do” a lot of what they did.

Closer to home (so to speak), I have been involved in a LOT of rock projects maintaining the Appalachian Trail - steps, cribbing, etc. - all dry laid. We also had very little ability to shape the stone - occasionally we could knock off a small ‘point’ with a rock bar, but mostly had to eyeball the shape & figure out how it fit the best. Many times, rocks just wouldn’t work, regardless of how you turned/flipped them. BTW, small rocks do not work - with people tromping over them for decades, they need to be large & solidly placed/seated. No one-person rocks ... a rock requiring two people with rock bars or even three people to move is what we were using.

Because of this, I have great appreciation for and am very interested in how the Incas did their stone work - they had some spectacular walls with impeccable joints.

Here’s an interesting link with some possibilities:
https://www.davideandrea.com/personal/ideas/inca_stones/index.html


4 posted on 05/29/2022 7:07:40 AM PDT by Qiviut (#standup "Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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To: bert
Just because someone who makes a video says they know how to do something doesn't mean no one knows how to do it.
5 posted on 05/29/2022 7:08:15 AM PDT by fso301
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To: bert

The problem is, when you get to discussions of Egyptian precision stone-work....then you get drawn to the same issue in Central/South America, Angkor wat, and several examples in India.

Then the discussion has to revolve around these stone-masons sharing their knowledge and skill around the globe. No one wants to go into that direction.


6 posted on 05/29/2022 7:08:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: fso301
Oops!. Just because someone who makes a video says they don't know how to do something doesn't mean no one knows how to do it.
7 posted on 05/29/2022 7:10:29 AM PDT by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv

PING


8 posted on 05/29/2022 7:10:42 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them)
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To: pepsionice

Exactly.

But my hope is that a discussion can be restricted setting aside the world outside for the time being. I have that very problem in my own mind but am trying to concentrate on ancient precision stonework in Egypt


9 posted on 05/29/2022 7:13:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: bert

I have long accepted that the ancients were as intelligent as modern man.

What I cannot explain is their “art”. Children’s drawings are often more inspired than what, it seems, the ancients produced. It seems that you have to get to Greece to see human forms that actually look human. I can’t explain it.


10 posted on 05/29/2022 7:16:34 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: bert

A trip into the quarries reveals all sorts of tool marks related to cutting stone and some rejected pieces still present after all this time


Nothing beats the human mind. Even today, computers and cutting tools are TOOLS.


11 posted on 05/29/2022 7:19:02 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: markomalley

As a guy who cuts granite every day including the very hard Egyptian granite probably under discussion you need only be absolutely sure of a few angles/lines and you can take it from there. Also, I’d very much doubt that the carvers of antiquity could out perform present day high speed computer guided blades.


12 posted on 05/29/2022 7:22:47 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Egyptian “art” is not “art.” It’s writing.

It’s not meant to be inspired anymore than the typeface of your local paper. It’s meant to be “readable.”

Just something to keep in mind.


13 posted on 05/29/2022 7:26:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: bert

ping


14 posted on 05/29/2022 7:27:21 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: Blurb2350

Even more ‘galling’ in that even today with our levels of technology we can’t duplicate some of the stuff found, yeah?


15 posted on 05/29/2022 7:31:24 AM PDT by cranked
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To: bert
The large stone objects get all the attention, but there are some small objects that are equally baffling, and demonstrate that the Egyptians (or somebody) had complete mastery over stone. In the 1880s, Flinders Petrie found tens of thousands of stone bowls, jars and vases at Saqqara. The stone used varied from soft alabaster to extremely hard granite. This particular granite jar is so perfectly carved it balances on a rounded base:

Try accomplishing that feat with clay, much less granite. The fact that they found thousands and thousands of these vessels suggests that it really wasn't a big deal for them to work granite as easily as clay.

16 posted on 05/29/2022 7:31:36 AM PDT by Flag_This
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"As a guy who cuts granite every day including the very hard Egyptian granite probably under discussion you need only be absolutely sure of a few angles/lines and you can take it from there."

Could you accomplish what you do today with copper chisels and round pounding stones, because those are the tools we are told the Egyptians used.

17 posted on 05/29/2022 7:35:48 AM PDT by Flag_This
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To: Flag_This

You are of course correct.

The question becomes how? Setting aside the question of who, how were such wonderfully precise vessels and the numerous rectangular boxes and sculptures created? What tools were used to fabricate with such precision?


18 posted on 05/29/2022 7:36:28 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Vermont Lt

Oh, I know about hieroglyphics. But they have paintings of what is supposed to be a funeral procession in a tomb. It is not writing. It is the caricature of the human form that you expect from children.

Somehow, this was “enough” for them. It said what they wanted to say, while they built the Pyramids around it. I find it strange.


19 posted on 05/29/2022 7:39:07 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Flag_This
Could you accomplish what you do today with copper chisels and round pounding stones,

I'm wondering whether they used diamond-tipped tools. As far as I know none have been found, but a diamond tool would be able (I think) to create the surfaces and angles we've seen.

20 posted on 05/29/2022 7:40:15 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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