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I posted this video in hopes of generating some discussion on the topic of an ancient, very ancient, Egyptian civilization that was capable of working very hard stone with the precision of a current computer controlled machine.

Ben and his crew chose this particular box for a detailed precision analysis. They don't actually provide any dimensions but clearly indicate the precision of dimensions, flatness, plumbness and squareness. The conclusion is that it is barely possible to fabricate such a box today and was completely impossible using mauls, stone chipping objects, and copper chisels. That is, the academics who so jealously defend their own theories are badly wrong

A trip into the quarries reveals all sorts of tool marks related to cutting stone and some rejected pieces still present after all this time

The problem with this specific video will be that the discussion can quickly go off topic to other closely related UnchartedX videos related to other stone objects fabricated with a precision deemed impossible with the tools known to be available at the time.

I wish I had the old GGG list to ping for others who might have an interest in the topic of an extremely advanced people preceding the historical Egyptian period that is the sole property of jealous academics

1 posted on 05/29/2022 6:52:53 AM PDT by bert
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It's not Egyptians, it's


2 posted on 05/29/2022 7:00:08 AM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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It’s galling that those ancient peoples aren’t given credit for their remarkable accomplishments. It’s assumed that only space aliens or fallen angels could have been talented enough to work with stone.


3 posted on 05/29/2022 7:01:20 AM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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Thanks for posting - I’ll check out the video. I have always been fascinated with how the Egyptians managed to “do” a lot of what they did.

Closer to home (so to speak), I have been involved in a LOT of rock projects maintaining the Appalachian Trail - steps, cribbing, etc. - all dry laid. We also had very little ability to shape the stone - occasionally we could knock off a small ‘point’ with a rock bar, but mostly had to eyeball the shape & figure out how it fit the best. Many times, rocks just wouldn’t work, regardless of how you turned/flipped them. BTW, small rocks do not work - with people tromping over them for decades, they need to be large & solidly placed/seated. No one-person rocks ... a rock requiring two people with rock bars or even three people to move is what we were using.

Because of this, I have great appreciation for and am very interested in how the Incas did their stone work - they had some spectacular walls with impeccable joints.

Here’s an interesting link with some possibilities:
https://www.davideandrea.com/personal/ideas/inca_stones/index.html


4 posted on 05/29/2022 7:07:40 AM PDT by Qiviut (#standup "Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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Just because someone who makes a video says they know how to do something doesn't mean no one knows how to do it.
5 posted on 05/29/2022 7:08:15 AM PDT by fso301
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The problem is, when you get to discussions of Egyptian precision stone-work....then you get drawn to the same issue in Central/South America, Angkor wat, and several examples in India.

Then the discussion has to revolve around these stone-masons sharing their knowledge and skill around the globe. No one wants to go into that direction.


6 posted on 05/29/2022 7:08:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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PING


8 posted on 05/29/2022 7:10:42 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them)
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I have long accepted that the ancients were as intelligent as modern man.

What I cannot explain is their “art”. Children’s drawings are often more inspired than what, it seems, the ancients produced. It seems that you have to get to Greece to see human forms that actually look human. I can’t explain it.


10 posted on 05/29/2022 7:16:34 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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A trip into the quarries reveals all sorts of tool marks related to cutting stone and some rejected pieces still present after all this time


Nothing beats the human mind. Even today, computers and cutting tools are TOOLS.


11 posted on 05/29/2022 7:19:02 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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ping


14 posted on 05/29/2022 7:27:21 AM PDT by AnglePark
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The large stone objects get all the attention, but there are some small objects that are equally baffling, and demonstrate that the Egyptians (or somebody) had complete mastery over stone. In the 1880s, Flinders Petrie found tens of thousands of stone bowls, jars and vases at Saqqara. The stone used varied from soft alabaster to extremely hard granite. This particular granite jar is so perfectly carved it balances on a rounded base:

Try accomplishing that feat with clay, much less granite. The fact that they found thousands and thousands of these vessels suggests that it really wasn't a big deal for them to work granite as easily as clay.

16 posted on 05/29/2022 7:31:36 AM PDT by Flag_This
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Thanks for posting!


21 posted on 05/29/2022 7:44:57 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (Today I will be all happiness, positivity, and smiles. Let's be friends! )
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They used brain power...

23 posted on 05/29/2022 7:48:01 AM PDT by evets (Thanks)
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The host of the video is very knowledgable, not only in Egyptology but in stone works, the crafting of them, and demonstration with remaining examples of stone works as they remain, in situ, in various stages of progress.

I think he makes a very reasonable case against the geopolymer theory, as the explanation for ALL, ancient grand stone works, and also a good case for our lack of ability to explain how something like the granite box was crafted in the time period it is said to be part of.

He says, rightly I believe, in is own way, that some things in Egpyt were posssibly not created by “classical ancient Egyptians” but inherited by them, used for their own purposes and were made by even much more ancient peoples, of which we know nothing at all.


29 posted on 05/29/2022 8:27:40 AM PDT by Wuli
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A clue to the granite boxes in the Serapeum??
Is Pharaoh Amasis saying that Horus built the first granite box for his father Osiris?
If so this gives a timeline date for the first granite box????
https://archive.org/details/ASAE-26-1-1926/page/n51/mode/1up
P.52 [93]”Now his Majesty, his piety(?)1 is like that which
Horus did for his father Osiris; making for him (Apis) a great coffin of granite.”
Vol 26, Fasc. 1: Annales du Service des Antiquités de l’Égypte (1926)
by Service des Antiquités de l’Égypte
author Gunn, Battiscombe, [Two] ‘Misunderstood Serapeum Inscriptions’


30 posted on 05/29/2022 8:29:23 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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We know the Egyptians used soft copper saws and a slurry of fine sand and water ... why couldn’t something the size and shape of a jointer plane be used with a copper shoe (instead of a rotating disk saw) on the inside of such a box?

Interior corners could be achieved with something like a molding plane.

The actual cutting is with the grit and water, not the hand tool, and by using a long tool flatness is easier to achieve.

Best of all, this idea should be testable to see if it even works.


31 posted on 05/29/2022 8:29:45 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I have no difficulty believing that lost civilizations preceeded our own. What I can’t explain is the absence of metals and sophisticated alloys among relics.


33 posted on 05/29/2022 8:44:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Saints are sinners who never gave up. --St. Theresa of Avila)
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It is my personal opinion that the ancients were taught by ‘someone’ how to use sound to soften stone so it could be worked. The massive interlocking stones in Peru and the precise shapes of these bullock burial vaults have something in common, IMHO.


38 posted on 05/29/2022 9:08:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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Egyptians were not “primitive” as described by this guy. The box was made by skilled craftsmen using similar techniques for squaring, plumbing, and flattening used in my machine shop.

But most likely ALIENS.


42 posted on 05/29/2022 10:21:50 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Egyptology ping


45 posted on 05/29/2022 10:44:50 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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What are we to make of this?


61 posted on 05/29/2022 1:10:57 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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