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‘A Skull and Bones-type vibe’: Spy agencies grapple with how much to share at UFO hearing
politico.com ^ | Bryan Bender

Posted on 05/17/2022 5:34:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

As Congress prepares to hold the first public hearing on UFOs in half a century, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies are feuding internally over how much to cooperate with demands to investigate and share what they know, according to current and former national security officials.

Pentagon officials are under increasing pressure to carry out Congress’ recent mandate to establish a permanent effort to coordinate research into reports of highly advanced aircraft of unknown origin intruding into protected airspace.

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But there is a tug of war among competing factions inside the national security bureaucracy that will make it difficult for Congress to compel military branches, spy agencies, national laboratories and other organizations to come clean given the longstanding secrecy and stigma surrounding the issue.

“Without forcing peoples’ hand, it is going to be very difficult to uncover legacy ventures and programs that we know about based on oral interviews we dug up,” said a Defense Department official who is involved in the new effort but was not authorized to speak publicly. “There has to be a forcing mechanism.”

“There has to be something to hold people accountable but also give them a chance to come out clean for a period of time,” the official added, noting that in his experience the Pentagon oversight group has been “stonewalled.”

The official said there are people with knowledge of the phenomena who have yet to contribute to the oversight effort.

“These people exist and they are protecting very interesting information,” the official said.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
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To: Jamestown1630

“Has there really been any substantial public clamor for a hearing on this?”

Is there anyone out there who wants to hear more government babble on this subject?

If they actually knew anything worthwhile there is zero chance they would share it with the peons.


41 posted on 05/17/2022 4:58:34 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: muir_redwoods

The speed of light issue is so yesterday.

Use the super-duper wormhole generator energy machine and you can go anywhere in the universe faster than you can say “Congressional hearing”....

;-)


42 posted on 05/17/2022 5:00:53 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

I thought the 2010 ‘Disclosure’ conference at the National Press Club was kind of interesting, especially Robert Salas.

(The Lonnie Zamora story was interesting, too; and the Phoenix Lights; and Gordo Cooper was my favorite astronaut...)


43 posted on 05/17/2022 9:08:26 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

That press conference was not official government of course.

The US (and other governments) have been part of the problem rather than part of the solution on this issue for decades.

Just one example—to avoid complying with FOIA and to help provide deniability the USG delegates many highly sensitive UFO related efforts to private contractors.

This is an old practice dating back at least as early as the 1950s—before FOIA even existed.

I am tired of their endless lies and coverups—I don’t even want to hear a word from them anymore.

Congress should go back to doing real work—like demonizing white people.

:-(


44 posted on 05/17/2022 9:16:27 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Wow. You really take this seriously, don’t you?


45 posted on 05/17/2022 9:22:24 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

If you want to get as cynical as I am, two books would probably do the trick:

https://www.amazon.com/Project-Beta-Bennewitz-National-Security-ebook/dp/B000FCK0KI

The first book describes a true scandal—how the US military used disinformation on UFOs to drive a private citizen insane.

https://www.amazon.com/Managing-Magic-Governments-Disclosure-Plan/dp/1542857694

The second book argues that there is an actual “disclosure plan”, but when you read all the details you realize that for decades private UFO researchers have been sent on endless wild goose (or ET) chases by various government functionaries.


46 posted on 05/17/2022 9:28:29 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

No, I’m not interested in being as cynical as you are (you appear to be cynical about everything).

And I don’t think I’m going to find out the TRUTH about UFOs, or ‘save the world’ from the alien invasion - or save us from government nefariousness, either.

I just like to read and think about what people have seen.

If you want to study and think about this, just stay away from the government.

Very easy.


47 posted on 05/17/2022 9:46:31 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

“you appear to be cynical about everything”

I call them as I see them, and I give fools and vagabonds no quarter, but when I see somebody showing honor and respect and integrity I never hesitate to give them the credit they deserve.

Jack Nicklaus was that man in the recent news:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4063965/posts


48 posted on 05/17/2022 9:51:26 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

What do you have against vagabonds?


49 posted on 05/17/2022 9:56:00 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: cgbg

God does miracles, Angels use technology ... and there are good Angels and bad Angels. With just one more variable of dimension space, our 3D of space could not sense someone with that extra variable, unless they stretch into our limits. (See the fifth chapter of Daniel)


50 posted on 05/17/2022 9:57:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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