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The cracks in the government promoted vision for the future of electric vehicles are starting to show. Major car manufacturers all over the world are having real problems. The resources, supply chain and electrical infrastructure required to produce and power these financial boondoggles does not exist now and likely will not in the future.

One of the biggest problems that anyone purchasing an electric vehicle should consider... is that the life of the batteries which are very fragile if "abused" in any way can be very limited. This typically means that you should not charge them past 85% or discharge them below 15%... This means that the range is essentially 30% less than advertised right from the start. It is a bad joke!

The batteries are by far the most expensive component, and the prices and availability situation is getting worse. By the time you pay it off and hope to trade it in, the batteries will be close to be needing to be replaced and will make the car worthless in the current market.

1 posted on 05/06/2022 10:18:16 AM PDT by fireman15
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Too big to fail! Time to steal the preferred stockholders’ stake and give it to the UAW!


2 posted on 05/06/2022 10:19:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
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I can’t imagine companies like Ford would be doing well even without this EV idiocy. With all the supply chain disruptions leading to empty dealership lots, how many new vehicles are these companies actually selling these days?


3 posted on 05/06/2022 10:20:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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Revenue being down 5% doesn’t have anything to do with electric car sales. Could it be some resistance to $50,000 pickup trucks?


4 posted on 05/06/2022 10:22:08 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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Go woke, go broke.


5 posted on 05/06/2022 10:22:59 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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But, but, but the f-150 lightning can power your house after a storm and stuff. Or something.


6 posted on 05/06/2022 10:26:25 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Supporting the Mich’s Nancy’s Chucks BiLiar Bush’s DC Freeloaders
OBush’s Freeloader Class.


7 posted on 05/06/2022 10:28:34 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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You can’t sell cars if you have no cars to sell. Just look at all the dealerships, they’re half empty and try to compensate by parking the existing cars further apart......


11 posted on 05/06/2022 10:32:05 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm Jimmy Crack Corn and I don't care)
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EVs are interesting. Fast as heck. But, there are so many considerations that haven’t been addressed. The most glaring of which are:
Lack of charging stations
Charging time
The capability of the electric grid
Availability of resources such as lithium

To go all in on EVs is breathtakingly stupid. I can’t imagine the car makers suddenly got as stupid as Joe Biden, so I’m guessing there’s a huge push by world governments. The execs at the car makers may not be stone stupid, but politicians are.


13 posted on 05/06/2022 10:32:42 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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EVs might play a small part in this, but every car brand is dealing with huge supply chain issues. Our local Toyota dealership has zero new vehicles on its lot. Zero. Everything is “in transit” or has to be ordered, and many vehicles have waiting lists of over a year. That’s why used cars are selling for thousands more than a new model, and people are willing to pay those prices simply because new cars are almost impossible to find. It’s insane.


14 posted on 05/06/2022 10:33:19 AM PDT by Restless
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Isn’t the Rivian pickup a competitor to the F-150 Lightning?

Why would Ford be investing in a competitor?


16 posted on 05/06/2022 10:35:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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I wouldn't have a problem with EVs if we were using our own rare-Earth materials, which would create domestic mining jobs here.

No one mentions that there are 5-10 year old kids in Central Africa digging for Cobalt in order to make the electric batteries. No safety equipment, no nothing. Just kids, literally kids using their bare hands digging in the dirt.

19 posted on 05/06/2022 10:37:54 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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...Ford blamed its sizable investment in electric vehicle (EV) company Rivian for its dramatic revenue decline in the first quarter of 2022.

Good grief. No they didn't. Rivian has no revenue nor was it expected too so they had nothing to do with Ford's revenue miss.

But they did significantly impact Ford's reported profit.

22 posted on 05/06/2022 10:39:24 AM PDT by semimojo
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Wherever Joe goes, disaster follows.


23 posted on 05/06/2022 10:42:01 AM PDT by blackdog (Disinformer and Deplorable because I do my own thinking. )
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Hi.

Ford’s electric “Mustang” didn’t fair well?

5.56mm


24 posted on 05/06/2022 10:42:05 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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Investment in Rivian is the “legacy” industry’s way of hedging against the success of Tesla.

Except they are in production hell, and can’t deliver in quantity - thus the tremendous losses that are written down.

Electric is here to stay. Get used to it. Performance is there already.
Now imagine if batteries are 1/3 the price, or 2x or more the range.
Game over. This is why everyone invested billions. Because they must somehow secure a path or get left behind.

The automobile industry is a plodding industry that resists change. They resisted seat belts for 20+ years...


27 posted on 05/06/2022 10:48:32 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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I see a big government bailout coming.

Screw them.


30 posted on 05/06/2022 10:51:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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They shouldn’t make decisions when they’re Drunk on Global Warming


38 posted on 05/06/2022 10:58:34 AM PDT by butlerweave
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My diesel sedan...well built,well equipped and quite comfortable...can do 810 Interstate miles on a full tank.I've done it twice. When it's empty I can fill it in about 4 minutes at any one of about 30,000 filling stations from coast to coast.

Why would I *possibly* want an EV today?

46 posted on 05/06/2022 11:05:29 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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Good, the market will decide.

People don’t want electric, they want gas powered cars.


47 posted on 05/06/2022 11:07:09 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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I’ve got a good idea, why don’t we mandate that all vehicles come with a cure for cancer?


59 posted on 05/06/2022 11:27:41 AM PDT by fruser1
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