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Ford Reports Devastating Losses Thanks to Electric Vehicle Gamble
Star News Network ^ | May 3, 2022 | Thomas Catenacci

Posted on 05/06/2022 10:18:16 AM PDT by fireman15

Major U.S. automaker Ford blamed its sizable investment in electric vehicle (EV) company Rivian for its dramatic revenue decline in the first quarter of 2022.

Ford reported revenue of $34.5 billion between January and March, a 5% decline relative to the same period in 2021, and a net loss of $3.1 billion, according to the company’s earnings report released Wednesday. The Detroit automaker said its large investment in Rivian accounted for $5.4 billion in losses during the first quarter.

“A net loss of $3.1 billion was primarily attributable to a mark-to-market loss of $5.4 billion on the company’s investment in Rivian,” Ford said in the earnings report.

Ford maintains a roughly 12% stake in Rivian, CNBC reported in November.

Rivian has posted massive profit losses of its own and its share price has plummeted nearly 70% over the last six months. The value of Ford’s roughly 102 million Rivian shares has fallen from about $17.5 billion to $3.2 billion since November.

In the final three months of 2021, Rivian reported a net loss of $2.5 billion.

Automakers have increasingly turned their attention toward manufacturing electric vehicles as governments push aggressive green energy plans. President Joe Biden has promised to craft policies to ensure 50% of new vehicle sales in the U.S. are emissions-free by 2030 and every addition to the federal government’s 600,000-vehicle fleet is electric by 2035.

However, Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe recently suggested that the supply chain for EV batteries is still far behind where it needs to be to achieve many of the goals pushed by Western governments, the WSJ reported.

“Put very simply, all the world’s cell production combined represents well under 10% of what we will need in 10 years,” Scaringe said last week. “Meaning, 90% to 95% of the supply chain does not exist.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2035; automotive; batteries; electric; electricvehicles; ev; evbatteries; ford; rivian; supplychain; tesla
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To: alternatives?
Could it be some resistance to $50,000 pickup trucks?

Yup. Just need a truck, 3 on the tree and my luxury item would be an AM radio. I don't need an iPhone on wheels.

21 posted on 05/06/2022 10:39:18 AM PDT by llevrok (Pronouns: Me/myself/& I)
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To: fireman15
...Ford blamed its sizable investment in electric vehicle (EV) company Rivian for its dramatic revenue decline in the first quarter of 2022.

Good grief. No they didn't. Rivian has no revenue nor was it expected too so they had nothing to do with Ford's revenue miss.

But they did significantly impact Ford's reported profit.

22 posted on 05/06/2022 10:39:24 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: fireman15

Wherever Joe goes, disaster follows.


23 posted on 05/06/2022 10:42:01 AM PDT by blackdog (Disinformer and Deplorable because I do my own thinking. )
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To: fireman15

Hi.

Ford’s electric “Mustang” didn’t fair well?

5.56mm


24 posted on 05/06/2022 10:42:05 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Too electric to fail.


25 posted on 05/06/2022 10:42:29 AM PDT by blackdog (Disinformer and Deplorable because I do my own thinking. )
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To: fireman15

Low inventory could reduce sales. That would produce less profits and have nothing to do with electric cars.


26 posted on 05/06/2022 10:47:38 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: fireman15

Investment in Rivian is the “legacy” industry’s way of hedging against the success of Tesla.

Except they are in production hell, and can’t deliver in quantity - thus the tremendous losses that are written down.

Electric is here to stay. Get used to it. Performance is there already.
Now imagine if batteries are 1/3 the price, or 2x or more the range.
Game over. This is why everyone invested billions. Because they must somehow secure a path or get left behind.

The automobile industry is a plodding industry that resists change. They resisted seat belts for 20+ years...


27 posted on 05/06/2022 10:48:32 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Hot Tabasco
You can’t sell cars if you have no cars to sell.

New cars may not be on the lots for sale or selection, but, I found out that, you can order whatever you want, and it can take a week or more to get it. I had ordered a Nissan Murano and a week later, I had changed my mind and went to a Lexus dealer to get something more to my liking. And, it's the same with just about all new car dealers, where the car you want is not to be found on the lot, but you can order it. I went to Jeep dealers and Mazda dealers and Toyota dealers and Hyundai dealers, and I could have ordered just about any new car.

Teslas take a lot longer to get, as my daughter found out when she ordered a Tesla Y. (I keep trying to convince her that it's not worth it to pay some $75,000-$80,000 for what she's getting).
28 posted on 05/06/2022 10:49:15 AM PDT by adorno
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To: brownsfan

Yes, Ford and other ICE companies trying to compete with Tesla reminds me of all those poor suckers who tried to get in on multilevel marketing schemes after it was too late.

There are always people at the very top of the pyramid who got rich - and they make it seem like if you do the same thing they did, you’ll get to the top one day.

Trouble is, if you look at a pyramid - the top is very, very small.


29 posted on 05/06/2022 10:49:51 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: fireman15

I see a big government bailout coming.

Screw them.


30 posted on 05/06/2022 10:51:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: MissEdie

Look at a Toyota Highlander it is the ONLY Lrge SUV worth the money. They will easily go 300000 miles if you do basic maintenance


31 posted on 05/06/2022 10:51:52 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I think we need more telephone poles!)
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To: fireman15
The supply chain is completely screwed up

Not to worry ... Mayor Pete is on it! /s

32 posted on 05/06/2022 10:53:29 AM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: alternatives?

EV could indirectly be responsible..or the efforts to cause gas oil to skyrocket..contributing to inflation.. as well as attempting force people into buying overpriced EVs they really do not want....


33 posted on 05/06/2022 10:53:55 AM PDT by Leep (Don't say God.)
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To: Night Hides Not

34 posted on 05/06/2022 10:54:08 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: MissEdie
"Unfortunately I find myself in the market for a new car."

I'm on the tail-end of my first 3 year car lease. I traded in my 2005 Nissan Altima for a 2019 Nissan Sentra. I hated the car from the beginning, because it didn't have the power seats, and extras that my Altima did, but I didn't want to pay a lot of money each month for a car that would sit most of the time in my parking space.

At 74, I rarely go anywhere other than doctor appointments, and the grocery store. I periodically visit my oldest son who lives two hours away, and up until this year, I was driving from New York to Indiana once a year to visit my youngest son for a couple of weeks. He's moving back here soon, so I won't be making that trip anymore. I had a 12,000 mile a year plan. After 2 years and 8 months, the car just turned 12,000 miles. I don't want to buy the car outright, so will be trading it in for another leased vehicle. The salesman at the dealership started calling me two months ago to see if I was interested in a deal. They want to get rid of what they have on their lot, but I'm not ready to trade it it. At the time he called, I had fractured my knee, and told him to call me back in May. He called me the other day, and I had to tell him I'd tested positive for Covid over the weekend, and that I wouldn't be able to do anything for a while. I'm really not interested in an early deal unless he makes it worth my while.

35 posted on 05/06/2022 10:55:47 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: M Kehoe

I saw one for the first time the other day, and I was puzzled.

I thought it was one of those things where the owner took a mustang grill logo and put it on something, but...apparently that butt-ugly thing is for real.

I would be embarrassed to own that car. Probably fun to drive, but...ugly.


36 posted on 05/06/2022 10:56:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: BereanBrain
"...Now imagine if batteries are 1/3 the price, or 2x or more the range..."

Just imagine.

37 posted on 05/06/2022 10:58:24 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: fireman15

They shouldn’t make decisions when they’re Drunk on Global Warming


38 posted on 05/06/2022 10:58:34 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: alternatives?

Yes but not only that.

Dealers who sell people vehicles for 20,000-30,000, then jack the price up 10-20 grand after you’ve signed a contract, are a big factor.


39 posted on 05/06/2022 10:58:45 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rlmorel
"I see a big government bailout coming."

That was my first thought when I read the title of the article.

40 posted on 05/06/2022 10:58:48 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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