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Weekly Garden Thread - April 29- May 6, 2022 [Plant By The Light of the Moon Edition]
April 29, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 04/30/2022 6:05:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
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To: Pollard

“Might be easiest to just mix them all together and make a tea from that.”

That was my plan; I wasn’t going to do all the math, LOL!

I LOVED alligator. Had that in Louisiana. In a restaurant. I was there for 3 months for some Army Training. Probably the most AWFUL time in my entire career.

I won’t go into detail but it involved a LOT of time spent navigating SWAMPLAND and a LOT of creepy-crawlies and don’t even get me started on my Cajun-Halfbreed course instructors, LOL!

Sorry, but this Yankee had no idea WHAT those guys were saying 99.999% of the time! Hard to believe I passed the course, let alone lived to tell about it. *Rolleyes*


81 posted on 05/02/2022 7:02:09 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Augie

Nice front yard! Chestnut trees! Don’t forget a pecan tree or two!

https://northernpecans.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html

He is located in SW KS. A lot of varieties to look at!


82 posted on 05/02/2022 7:06:35 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Your instructor Boudreau! ..You had that exotic “ Petite Jollie Blonde” thing going in your favor! Ne’cest Pa?


83 posted on 05/02/2022 7:12:28 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Cloverfarm

A good variety! Take a look at Pinapple tomatoes some year!


84 posted on 05/02/2022 7:20:18 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

LOL! Let’s just say I was never so glad to return to ‘The Frozen Tundra’ after 3 months with all those Swamp Critters!

Never have and never will miss Camp Beauregard. 12,500 acres of scrub pine, swamp, snakes and big old BUGS, LOL!


85 posted on 05/02/2022 7:21:46 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FamiliarFace; Pollard; All
I know, NYT, nothing is free.

Growing Morels:

https://www.happysprout.com/gardening/how-to-grow-morel-mushrooms/

I think that the idea that they grow in several days is, however, a bit dubious! You may also want to plant a bit of thinly sown grass since the apparently helps them.

Here is another one... It suggests using wood ash too.

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/vegetables/mushrooms/grow-morel-mushrooms.htm If I were doing this I think I would fence off the area too. I have not tried this so can't say either of these works.

86 posted on 05/02/2022 7:28:55 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Southern Comfort(movie based on US soldiers training in the bayou) “This is owa home an don nobody mess with us heeya”

And yeah, being from up North myself, the South is a little different. FL has everglades which is basically a treeless, gator infested swamp. And “palmetto bugs” aka 3-4 inch cock roaches. My neighbor there taught me how to sail and shortly after letting me take control, informed me that Lake Jessup that we were on is the most gator infested lake in FL. No pressure.

RE: old barn. I just hate seeing something like that replaced with something that looks like it belongs in an industrial park. Might have something to do with having worked in commercial buildings my whole life. Of course I only saw a tiny corner of the outside of your barn.

Lots of cool old barns around here that were built in the late 1800s to early 1900s and they’re leaning or falling in and there’s an ugly commercial style pole building in the shape of a cardboard box sitting nearby that’s used in it’s place. The commercial metal siding is what makes it — ugly as can be.

I hate it just like I hate “crossover” vehicles that all look the same.


87 posted on 05/02/2022 8:15:25 PM PDT by Pollard (Who stole my tagline?)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Diana in Wisconsin

Here is the gardening site, with the ping list managed by Diana in Wisconsin. I don’t know if she can help you but she has several nice ping lists. Probably best to Private Message her.


88 posted on 05/02/2022 11:12:36 PM PDT by gleeaikin (""s)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“big old BUGS LOL!”

Umhum. Deer flies, Black flies, mosquitos, Winnebago Flies, the mayfly hatch! (At least the trout are happy!)


89 posted on 05/03/2022 5:26:16 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pollard; Augie; Diana in Wisconsin; MomwithHope; All

The two articles state that morels are often found in the site where there has been a fire.

I suspect that one action of a fire is that it kills off competing fungus or plants which benefits the morels.

Morels feed on carbohydrates emitted by the roots of trees ad shrubs.
Fire may damage the tops of trees of bushes, but not their root systems which now may release nutrients from the damaged plants roots to the morel mycelium. The products of fire...essentially charcoal...may release minerals that morels require.

I wonder if someone is attempting to innoculate using morel spawn if it would be worth burning off a morel growing plot beforehand? (Among the other things suggested.) Just a thought.


90 posted on 05/03/2022 6:05:04 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Morels are a famously difficult mushroom species to cultivate but are great for experimenting with new methods. Given their difficulty, we do not currently recommend for commercial use. (Please let us know of your successes and failures when trying to cultivate this species!) We recommend using this experimental spawn in outdoor beds, forest floor inoculations, or utilizing burned substrates. Morel mushrooms do not grow on logs.

https://northspore.com/products/morel-sawdust-spawn

Most everything I find says they're very tree specific and like Ash and Elm. A burned area is also helpful. My neighbor's hot spot is around a big dead elm tree but I don't know if the spot has ever burned.

I'll stick with the easy ones, shiitake and red wine cap.

91 posted on 05/03/2022 7:59:17 AM PDT by Pollard (Who stole my tagline?)
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To: Pollard

Next time you come over, I’ll have you walk through it and you can tell me how safe you feel inside of it, LOL! Every few days something lets loose and there’s a pile of rubble from the foundation to walk over...if you dare!

It would still be functional if they had put some money into it in the 50’s. I’m just excited to get the barn wood out of it - that’s GOLD, Baby! GOLD! :)


92 posted on 05/03/2022 8:33:26 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard
And there it is. Every May we suddenly hit the high 80s. Today's high is 59 yet it's 2:30pm and 50 so I doubt we're gonna hit 59.

Doesn't mean it will stay that warm but it's one of those jumps up - two steps forward - that never quite comes back down. Spring has sprung.

Every plant that's big enough, will be going out Friday. Few more weeks and direct seeding of heat loving crops can happen.

93 posted on 05/03/2022 12:45:07 PM PDT by Pollard (Who stole my tagline?)
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To: Pollard

Ask and Embla, Ash and Elm; The first man and woman in the Viking Creation myth.

Dying elms are good place to look. I do not now if that applies to Siberian elms which are really crappy trees that grow fast and were used a lot in the street plantings around here.

Good luck with your Shitake!


94 posted on 05/03/2022 1:36:12 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Pollard

Thanks for the tomato advice - they survived and are thriving!

I have another question. I have a hill that was created through grading and I planted juniper on it last year. The juniper is doing well but a long way from filling in. I noticed I have vetch growing among the juniper and my thought is to leave it alone as I read it is good for fixing bad soil, and maybe pull it next year. What do y’all think?


95 posted on 05/03/2022 3:24:38 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The goal.


96 posted on 05/03/2022 3:35:08 PM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: LilFarmer
Nitrogen fixing member of the pea family and I've never heard of it being considered an invasive. Let it go I'd say.

USDA Cover Crop Periodic Table

Probably won't be winter killed but if it becomes a problem at some point, terminate it. Catch it at the right stage and break the stems/stalks near the bottom and leave it as a mulch. They use a roller/crimper on a tractor for large scale. Looks like hairy vetch is a little tougher than say, rye grass. https://extension.psu.edu/terminating-cover-crops-with-a-roller-crimper-in-organic-grain-rotations

97 posted on 05/03/2022 3:46:22 PM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: LilFarmer

Chop and Drop for small scale termination.


98 posted on 05/03/2022 3:47:31 PM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: Pollard

Thanks!


99 posted on 05/03/2022 4:51:05 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

No problem


100 posted on 05/03/2022 6:31:14 PM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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