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Better Call Saul -- Episode 6x3 "Rock And Hard Place" -- Discussion Thread
AMC ^ | 4-25-22

Posted on 04/25/2022 4:29:52 PM PDT by silent_jonny

WARNING!

This thread contains spoilers for:

Better Call Saul

Breaking Bad

and El Camino

Proceed at your own risk.



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To: TomServo
The "official" plan was for Nacho to tell the Salamancas his Peru story, then "make a break for it", allowing Gus' henchmen to take him out quick. It would look good and everyone would be satisfied.

Only Nacho and Mike didn't trust that plan--or Gus.

Instead, Nacho wanted Mike to take him out clean if it looked like Gus would turn him over to the Salamancas.

In the end ... Nacho took himself out, making the story look even better AND sparing Mike from pulling the trigger. One last noble act.

Wow ... these shows are stunning.

41 posted on 04/25/2022 7:23:36 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: MayflowerMadam
It sure did clear up some stuff.

I'm kind of embarrassed I tried to figure everything out from Episode 2. I think all questions were answered tonight. All I had to do was wait :)

But wow ... there are going to be YouTube reaction videos to this one for years.

42 posted on 04/25/2022 7:28:23 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: MayflowerMadam
There was nowhere left for Nacho to go. If he ran, eventually he would be caught and tortured, or he would escape and his father would be tortured and killed.

He had to really sell that story to the Salamancas in order to protect his father--and boy, did he!

Hector is going to be pooping his diaper for a loooong time about this.

43 posted on 04/25/2022 7:33:07 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: americas.best.days...
Suck on that jello old man.

LOL!

44 posted on 04/25/2022 7:33:43 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: silent_jonny

Nacho loved his Papa and was a very good looking dude.

Giggity.


45 posted on 04/25/2022 7:34:13 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: silent_jonny

I figured the big bottom line was to ensure his father’s safety. He sacrificed himself.


46 posted on 04/25/2022 7:35:17 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Excellent. )
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To: MayflowerMadam
Sheesh, I completely forgot about the Jimmy story tonight.

So now he has access to Hamlin's NAMASTE car with the world's biggest key fob?

47 posted on 04/25/2022 7:35:18 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: silent_jonny

“So now he has access to Hamlin’s NAMASTE car with the world’s biggest key fob?”

Yep. It’ll be interesting to find out what he and Kim are up to. One more caper to set up Howard and close out Sandpiper.


48 posted on 04/25/2022 7:36:38 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Excellent. )
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To: joesbucks

“Odenkirk’s heart attack” — I had no idea!


49 posted on 04/25/2022 7:40:03 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Instead of criminalizing guns, we need to criminalize criminals.)
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To: americas.best.days...
There was at least one other time that I remember ... and it involved almost the same people!

Mike had pre-stroke Hector in his crosshairs, but Nacho unknowingly blocked his shot. The Twins were there too.

So were Gus' henchmen, but they were never seen. One left the note "Don't!" on his steering wheel.

50 posted on 04/25/2022 7:42:49 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: silent_jonny

He’e gonna end up driving that car to the Motel where Wendy lives.


51 posted on 04/25/2022 7:43:33 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: TomServo

I thought I recognized it ... “Ev’ry one knows it’s Wen-deeeee”


52 posted on 04/25/2022 7:52:27 PM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: silent_jonny

I was thinking that Nacho was in Breaking Bad. Guess not or he wouldn’t be dead in this one.


53 posted on 04/25/2022 8:33:54 PM PDT by Texan
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To: silent_jonny

“His zip-tie was lying near the shard of glass”

We just re-watched the opening again and noticed the piece of glass, too. Didn’t the first time around. Of course, it wouldn’t have made sense then, anyhow.


54 posted on 04/26/2022 5:07:11 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Excellent. )
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To: silent_jonny

“There was at least one other time that I remember ... and it involved almost the same people!”

And the same location, too, IIRC.


55 posted on 04/26/2022 5:10:29 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Excellent. )
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To: MayflowerMadam
For me it would require multiple viewings in order to determine just what ‘the message’ is in these opening scenes.

The one where Saul tosses the ice cream cone onto the sidewalk because he was essentially kidnapped, and then the focus on those ants was remarkable. I think that Gilligan loves to provoke us into figuring out just what we are supposed to be on the alert for. In my case, I just want to watch it in order to see what happens next. I have to figure out the ants, the rain in the desert tinkling the glass, and the blue flowers later.

It is a very cool Program. Hey, I am still trying to figure out the real meaning of the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. That was 28 years ago.

OK, Marcellus Wallace sold his Soul and wanted it back. Everyone who viewed the contents of the briefcase got it at once. It was weird stuff, but it is now immortal. QT thinks that he is funny with that stuff, but who can deny his brilliance?

56 posted on 04/26/2022 5:23:51 PM PDT by Radix (Radical X)
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To: Radix

It seems like there are quite a few fuzzy spiders in BCS, too. Gilligan seems obsessed with small creepy critters.


57 posted on 04/26/2022 5:28:23 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Excellent. )
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To: silent_jonny

No title glitch on my recorded episode.

Also, Nacho checked out.......that sucks


58 posted on 04/27/2022 4:47:36 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: V_TWIN; TomServo

The glitch was just on my end. The screen froze on the woman’s hand (Kim’s hand?) flicking ashes into the scales of justice, and I thought they were going for some kind of Outer Limits thing. “Do not adjust your television ...”


59 posted on 04/27/2022 10:25:02 AM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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To: Texan
Nope :) His name was only mentioned once in Breaking Bad, and it was just a random made-up name. "Ignacio". It had no significance, other than to show us that Saul Goodman was already involved with shady characters. Same with "Lalo".

From that, they built these three-dimensional characters that we can believe were always a part of this world.

Now whenever I watch a Hector scene in Breaking Bad, I'll think of Nacho.

60 posted on 04/27/2022 11:25:18 AM PDT by silent_jonny (Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, Joe. The feet are at the door (Acts 5:9) 9-18-21)
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